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[Captain Mainwaring]

 

 

ive been using something called MPG extreme in my engines for many years

 

starting using it when lived in AUS in my road car done 100,000 klms with it in

 

no problems, so thought would put in my mini only done 7000 miles

 

with it in no problems tho.

 

the US army used it there vehicles during the Gulf war both

 

engines and gearboxes, certainly quietens engine

 

no Teflon, its thin stuff not like stp

 

its pretty expensive more than the oil

 

I've got 280K Miles on a V6 Pajero that's only ever had regular oil changes - 

 

Reading the manufacturer's data...I'm not sure I want to try it.

When decomposed by heat is produces hydrochloric acid in the presence of water.

 

MPG EXTreme PLUS™ is designed for conditioning the metal crankshaft, connecting rods, and allied parts of an internal-combustion engine.

 

its also recommended for gearboxes

if the US army put it in there vehicles good enough for me

 

I use it not telling anyone else to, I don't sell it

my Hyundai accent in AUS done over 100,000 miles.

with it in the last 60,000

ran great had it in that

 

gearbox in my mini great ( touch wood as my mum always said)

 

 

 

Perhaps I'm just a bit more doubting than you, particularly where the US army is concerned - but let's not go there regarding what the US may or may not do.

Actually I can find no evidence whatsoever that the military use it.

 

The website is something to behold - have a look if you've time. It seems that the same product can be used in auto transmission and also as a facial scrub.

 

Cars 40 years ago may have needed an engine rebuild at 100K miles, but now seeing cars with 250K on them with sound drivetrains in them is nothing special, so for me your Hyundai with 100K miles on is nothing special - I saw plenty of Hyundai taxis in Korea with 500K plus kilometers on them - I put it down to the white driving gloves myself.

 

Each to their own, to me that stuff has less going for it than Slick50.

[krusher74]

 

 

ive been using something called MPG extreme in my engines for many years

 

starting using it when lived in AUS in my road car done 100,000 klms with it in

 

no problems, so thought would put in my mini only done 7000 miles

 

with it in no problems tho.

 

the US army used it there vehicles during the Gulf war both

 

engines and gearboxes, certainly quietens engine

 

no Teflon, its thin stuff not like stp

 

its pretty expensive more than the oil

 

I've got 280K Miles on a V6 Pajero that's only ever had regular oil changes - 

 

Reading the manufacturer's data...I'm not sure I want to try it.

When decomposed by heat is produces hydrochloric acid in the presence of water.

 

MPG EXTreme PLUS™ is designed for conditioning the metal crankshaft, connecting rods, and allied parts of an internal-combustion engine.

 

its also recommended for gearboxes

if the US army put it in there vehicles good enough for me

 

I use it not telling anyone else to, I don't sell it

my Hyundai accent in AUS done over 100,000 miles.

with it in the last 60,000

ran great had it in that

 

gearbox in my mini great ( touch wood as my mum always said)

 

So what mpg (or other) gains have you seen using it?

[racingbob]

 

 

 

ive been using something called MPG extreme in my engines for many years

 

starting using it when lived in AUS in my road car done 100,000 klms with it in

 

no problems, so thought would put in my mini only done 7000 miles

 

with it in no problems tho.

 

the US army used it there vehicles during the Gulf war both

 

engines and gearboxes, certainly quietens engine

 

no Teflon, its thin stuff not like stp

 

its pretty expensive more than the oil

 

I've got 280K Miles on a V6 Pajero that's only ever had regular oil changes - 

 

Reading the manufacturer's data...I'm not sure I want to try it.

When decomposed by heat is produces hydrochloric acid in the presence of water.

 

MPG EXTreme PLUS™ is designed for conditioning the metal crankshaft, connecting rods, and allied parts of an internal-combustion engine.

 

its also recommended for gearboxes

if the US army put it in there vehicles good enough for me

 

I use it not telling anyone else to, I don't sell it

my Hyundai accent in AUS done over 100,000 miles.

with it in the last 60,000

ran great had it in that

 

gearbox in my mini great ( touch wood as my mum always said)

 

So what mpg (or other) gains have you seen using it?

 

no idea never realy worried me in AUS fuel so cheap

I used it because it made the engine quieter and smoother

so carried on using it. what i'm saying about the 100,000 klms using it

is it gave no problems to the engine so certainly not harmful

mpg extreme has the same ingredients as what the US army used

not the same brand name.

 

certainly would have used it in my race mini if was ok with LSD  but that was

earlier on ,brand name mpg extreme came out about 2005

 

certainly hasn't affected oil consumption in my mini been in there now 7000 miles

ran engine in changed oil 100 miles then again at 500 miles then again at 1500 miles

and added mpg extreme and added again about 1000 miles ago

( I change my oil about every 2000 miles ) nice clean oil keeps a happy engine

[krusher74]

 

 

 

 

ive been using something called MPG extreme in my engines for many years

 

starting using it when lived in AUS in my road car done 100,000 klms with it in

 

no problems, so thought would put in my mini only done 7000 miles

 

with it in no problems tho.

 

the US army used it there vehicles during the Gulf war both

 

engines and gearboxes, certainly quietens engine

 

no Teflon, its thin stuff not like stp

 

its pretty expensive more than the oil

 

I've got 280K Miles on a V6 Pajero that's only ever had regular oil changes - 

 

Reading the manufacturer's data...I'm not sure I want to try it.

When decomposed by heat is produces hydrochloric acid in the presence of water.

 

MPG EXTreme PLUS™ is designed for conditioning the metal crankshaft, connecting rods, and allied parts of an internal-combustion engine.

 

its also recommended for gearboxes

if the US army put it in there vehicles good enough for me

 

I use it not telling anyone else to, I don't sell it

my Hyundai accent in AUS done over 100,000 miles.

with it in the last 60,000

ran great had it in that

 

gearbox in my mini great ( touch wood as my mum always said)

 

So what mpg (or other) gains have you seen using it?

 

no idea never realy worried me in AUS fuel so cheap

I used it because it made the engine quieter and smoother

so carried on using it. what i'm saying about the 100,000 klms using it

is it gave no problems to the engine so certainly not harmful

mpg extreme has the same ingredients as what the US army used

not the same brand name.

 

certainly would have used it in my race mini if was ok with LSD  but that was

earlier on ,brand name mpg extreme came out about 2005

 

certainly hasn't affected oil consumption in my mini been in there now 7000 miles

ran engine in changed oil 100 miles then again at 500 miles then again at 1500 miles

and added mpg extreme and added again about 1000 miles ago

( I change my oil about every 2000 miles ) nice clean oil keeps a happy engine

 

I would have used some before and after mpg figure as one basis of any gains from the product.

[Captain Mainwaring]

MPG/economy doesn't mean very much if it's at the expensive of the bearings.

[racingbob]

MPG/economy doesn't mean very much if it's at the expensive of the bearings.

 

MPG/economy doesn't mean very much if it's at the expensive of the bearings.

what you talking about done 100,000 ks with it in

[Captain Mainwaring]

And I've done 293K on a vehicle.....

 

 

That's had nothing more than straight engine oil in the sump all it's life.

The minute I open your can of magic that has no guarantee. not even "MILSPEC" (considering it's supposed to be used by the US military) and put it in my sump, I take the risk of adulterating perfectly good engine oil with some gloop that when combusted releases hydrochloric acid.

 

My Merc used to run 12000 miles plus service intervals on Magnatec - is this stuff guaranteed to make my oil last longer or make my rod more shiny or whatever? Because if it is, why isn't it spec'ed by major car co's? Wouldn't it be in their interest to have something that protects the engine better than oil?

 

With respect, you haven't given me any reason to buy the product except you state it ran smoother and quieter with it. Remembering that in most cases the consumer can't tell what flavour crisps are my just tasting them, he needs to know what the packet says and also to taste them, I'd need a bit more proof than just perception. 

You could have been charged a tenner for half a litre of straight engine oil for all these years without realising it.

[krusher74]

MPG/economy doesn't mean very much if it's at the expensive of the bearings.

If the product was bad enough the cause harm to the bearing I would then expect to be seeing mpg losses. If i saw a loss inmpg on the first tanki would be getting the oil changed.

[racingbob]

And I've done 293K on a vehicle.....

 

 

That's had nothing more than straight engine oil in the sump all it's life.

The minute I open your can of magic that has no guarantee. not even "MILSPEC" (considering it's supposed to be used by the US military) and put it in my sump, I take the risk of adulterating perfectly good engine oil with some gloop that when combusted releases hydrochloric acid.

 

My Merc used to run 12000 miles plus service intervals on Magnatec - is this stuff guaranteed to make my oil last longer or make my rod more shiny or whatever? Because if it is, why isn't it spec'ed by major car co's? Wouldn't it be in their interest to have something that protects the engine better than oil?

 

With respect, you haven't given me any reason to buy the product except you state it ran smoother and quieter with it. Remembering that in most cases the consumer can't tell what flavour crisps are my just tasting them, he needs to know what the packet says and also to taste them, I'd need a bit more proof than just perception. 

You could have been charged a tenner for half a litre of straight engine oil for all these years without realising it.

of course virtually all oil is good

its just something I have done for the last 8 years

now putting in my mini, modified mg metro engine

70lb oil pressure at 3000 HOT been in for  last 7000 miles

and just added more on an oil change.

they say you can lengthen oil changes but I don't

not on a mini. my oil gets changed around 2000 miles

Not trying to convince anyone to buy it.

when I built my engine we used STP for mains etc

so cant be harmful

[Captain Mainwaring]

 

MPG/economy doesn't mean very much if it's at the expensive of the bearings.

If the product was bad enough the cause harm to the bearing I would then expect to be seeing mpg losses. If i saw a loss inmpg on the first tanki would be getting the oil changed.

 

 

I'm not suggesting you or Bob don't use it - just that there is no positive indication it does anything, in fact you could find more positive indications that slinging a drop of ATF in with the oil, especially just before a change could help.

It's like so called fuel injector and fuel system conditioners - a guy who rebuilds some of our big injectors was approached years back to test these cleaners and as you may guess, they did absolutely nothing.

There are additives that work - redex diesel cetane increaser works, and occasionally I'll run 1/4 litre of two stroke oil through a non common rail diesel, but unless there is either any engineering behind it or alternatively documented cases that are available then I wouldn't touch it.

 

If I take these guys at face value - I can put it in an auto mini sump - I guess they won;t pay out though if it's giblet drop out.