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#61 KernowCooper

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:14 PM

Trouble is whoever is retailing the units they are most likely one and the same under a different brand name and packaging, my aldon one was 4 times the price but was in the car when I bought it, it may even be of the same origin?



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:22 PM

It would be interesting see what the quality issues are with the ebay dizzys.

 

The one we brought had a few issues but nothing major, but may have stumped somebody who was looking for a plug and play option.

 

The section of the dizzy that goes into the block was slightly to big, a bit of sanding of the alloy cured that.

 

the rotor arm supplied was to long, was catching the electrodes in the cap

 

vac advance unit wasn't attached to the base plate.

 

Once I sorted those probs it fitted fine and as been trouble free.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:25 PM

Can I have a 45 and a 15a and a 76. Oh wrong shop.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:52 PM

No Prob he can pass the order on to his brother mate



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:31 PM

It would be interesting see what the quality issues are with the ebay dizzys.

 

The one we brought had a few issues but nothing major, but may have stumped somebody who was looking for a plug and play option.

 

The section of the dizzy that goes into the block was slightly to big, a bit of sanding of the alloy cured that.

 

the rotor arm supplied was to long, was catching the electrodes in the cap

 

vac advance unit wasn't attached to the base plate.

 

Once I sorted those probs it fitted fine and as been trouble free.

That's Chinese quality control for you.

 

Problem is when faced with a 50quid or 200quid distributor what are most people gonna buy?  

 

I have a MSD streetfire cdi i'm gonna put on my car, just found out there made in china so that will probably leave me stranded in the future!!!! O_O



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:37 PM

 

It would be interesting see what the quality issues are with the ebay dizzys.

 

The one we brought had a few issues but nothing major, but may have stumped somebody who was looking for a plug and play option.

 

The section of the dizzy that goes into the block was slightly to big, a bit of sanding of the alloy cured that.

 

the rotor arm supplied was to long, was catching the electrodes in the cap

 

vac advance unit wasn't attached to the base plate.

 

Once I sorted those probs it fitted fine and as been trouble free.

That's Chinese quality control for you.

 

Problem is when faced with a 50quid or 200quid distributor what are most people gonna buy?  

 

I have a MSD streetfire cdi i'm gonna put on my car, just found out there made in china so that will probably leave me stranded in the future!!!! O_O

 

 

 

It's not all crap, just most of it. IF there is proper QC in place that really does it's job, then of course China can build to a reasonable standard.

 

Whilst I was happy with what I purchased from powerspark, he did say that he suggested I purchased a spare amplifier....i'm beginning to wonder why now... :-(



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

 

 

It would be interesting see what the quality issues are with the ebay dizzys.

 

The one we brought had a few issues but nothing major, but may have stumped somebody who was looking for a plug and play option.

 

The section of the dizzy that goes into the block was slightly to big, a bit of sanding of the alloy cured that.

 

the rotor arm supplied was to long, was catching the electrodes in the cap

 

vac advance unit wasn't attached to the base plate.

 

Once I sorted those probs it fitted fine and as been trouble free.

That's Chinese quality control for you.

 

Problem is when faced with a 50quid or 200quid distributor what are most people gonna buy?  

 

I have a MSD streetfire cdi i'm gonna put on my car, just found out there made in china so that will probably leave me stranded in the future!!!! O_O

 

 

 

It's not all crap, just most of it. IF there is proper QC in place that really does it's job, then of course China can build to a reasonable standard.

 

Whilst I was happy with what I purchased from powerspark, he did say that he suggested I purchased a spare amplifier....i'm beginning to wonder why now... :-(

 

Just what you want to hear from a vendor, "while your at it I would buy spares for this new item your buying" lol



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:39 PM

Maybe they know sonething we dont ? the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure)

 

The failure time expected of a component once manufactured and tested to see how long the component is expected to last, If the MTBF is all over the place then thats down to poor quality components and manufacturing.

 

Be interesting to see if the Far East carries these tests out or just makes the component and the consumer does the testing?

 

Anyway were only speculating and be interesting to see what happens on Saturday when it fitted at the suppliers.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:11 PM

 

 

 

It would be interesting see what the quality issues are with the ebay dizzys.

 

The one we brought had a few issues but nothing major, but may have stumped somebody who was looking for a plug and play option.

 

The section of the dizzy that goes into the block was slightly to big, a bit of sanding of the alloy cured that.

 

the rotor arm supplied was to long, was catching the electrodes in the cap

 

vac advance unit wasn't attached to the base plate.

 

Once I sorted those probs it fitted fine and as been trouble free.

That's Chinese quality control for you.

 

Problem is when faced with a 50quid or 200quid distributor what are most people gonna buy?  

 

I have a MSD streetfire cdi i'm gonna put on my car, just found out there made in china so that will probably leave me stranded in the future!!!! O_O

 

 

 

It's not all crap, just most of it. IF there is proper QC in place that really does it's job, then of course China can build to a reasonable standard.

 

Whilst I was happy with what I purchased from powerspark, he did say that he suggested I purchased a spare amplifier....i'm beginning to wonder why now... :-(

 

Just what you want to hear from a vendor, "while your at it I would buy spares for this new item your buying" lol

 

 

I didn't think much about it at the time, and have no negative experiences so far. Probably be pushing the bastard thing tomorrow......



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:15 PM

Maybe they know sonething we dont ? the MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure)

 

The failure time expected of a component once manufactured and tested to see how long the component is expected to last, If the MTBF is all over the place then thats down to poor quality components and manufacturing.

 

Be interesting to see if the Far East carries these tests out or just makes the component and the consumer does the testing?

 

Anyway were only speculating and be interesting to see what happens on Saturday when it fitted at the suppliers.

 Mean time before Dimsum more likely. Don't start me off on copy and paste and QC...it's not been a good day so far.

Only one thing more sure than Chinese quality is the likelyhood of you never getting an apology or your dough back. Ironically both my daughters speak mandarin...it doesn't help.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 05:06 PM

Hi all,

 

As far as pre-empting failures.  When I bought the kit I was given a spare rotor arm.  I was told the one supplied was rubbish and fails all the time.........Not the only thing that fails apparently!



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:14 PM

Hi all,

 

As far as pre-empting failures.  When I bought the kit I was given a spare rotor arm.  I was told the one supplied was rubbish and fails all the time.........Not the only thing that fails apparently!

That's pretty crazy business sence, would you not being that vendor throw the bad rotors in the bin replace with good one and not tell the customer anything? rather than send then the shitty rotor and tell them its shitty, whats the hell are you going to do with the shitty rotor?  O_O



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:26 PM

that's a brilliant business plan selling known unreliable parts



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:24 PM

Just got back from powerspark.

 

No solution.  We tried all kinds of things from replacing the module to changing the timing.  The upshot is they don't know what is causing it.  They tried to suggest I had a fault with my battery, then the starter, then the alternator.  When I explained I had replaced all of these within the last 6 weeks they were stumped.

 

We measured the volt drop on cranking.  With the new dizzy in place we got about 8 volts.  With the new dizzy,  in a retarded stance (or the old dizzy as per normal timing) it was 10.3v.   The mech enentually gave up and said he didn't know what to suggest. 

 

Eventually, I re-fitted my old dizzy and agreed to speak to Simon on Monday about getting a re-fund (it was only one of his mech guys that helped me).   It drove lovely on the way home by the way. 

 

What a rubbish outcome.  Points and condenser will have to do.

 

Cheers for all your ideas.

 

I will let you know what the outcome of the refund issue is on Monday.  I am not holding out much hope, because as soon as I mentioned that, the mech guy said he wasn't authorised to give me a refund and I would have to speak to Simon.  I said would he at least take the parts and receipt me for them (save me having to post them back)and I would speak to Simon on Monday.  No he said. 



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

Just put a electronic trigger unit in yours, mind you where was the 8v reading taken on cranking ?






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