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#16 MaxAndPaddy

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 05:33 PM

Hi Mini Luke,

 

We would be saving it from leaving the county and saving it as a piece of history for generations to come and enjoy to hear the story. The great story of it being found and the great work the current owner has done to save this important piece of ours and the minis history. In my humble opinion.

 

More and more of the rare and important Minis are disapearing aboard to never been seen again and I see that as a hughe shame.

 

Lets hope this one one doesnt Max and Paddy.

 

Like Shifty said the logistics of a syndicate are a nightmare..... plus I very much doubt it will be able to compete with the overseas interest 

 

I for one wouldnt feed this idea or want to bump up the price to keep the car in the UK



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 05:46 PM

They are actually quite simple Max and Paddy! Its a very simple idea and easy thing to do depending on the motivations of the synidcate i.e is it to make a return or purchased for protection reasons.

 

If you are not interested thats cool but please dont make brash comments about ones motivations.

 

Thanks

 



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

They are actually quite simple Max and Paddy! Its a very simple idea and easy thing to do depending on the motivations of the synidcate i.e is it to make a return or purchased for protection reasons.

 

If you are not interested thats cool but please dont make brash comments about ones motivations.

 

Thanks

 

 

I don't consider my comments as 'brash' ...I would call them realistic

 

I worry that genuine people like yourself are being sucked in by a very clever advertising campaign. This isn't sour grapes or a pessimistic attitude its more a caution 

 

At the end of the day this car has very little value other than its history and even that has already been tampered with by its roof being straightened 

 

Be careful is all I'm saying or you run the risk of being a tool in the cars hammer price



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 06:17 PM

Hi Bob,

 

I understand your point of view 100% and agree in a way but I truly believe in the british resolve to GET THINGS DONE! I think there is potential in it and have a webiste that is currently under construction and hopefully be completed within the next week. (http://www.minicrazy.co.uk, any feedback on the logo etc greatly recieved) PR is in discussion.

 

I like a challenge.

 

Thanks

 

Sam

 

I have just edited my post Sam because it should have read ........'Unless you already have.......

 

And yes, I agree that it is possible to get things done if there is sufficient passion involved.   I look forward to seeing your web-site once it goes live, but don't delay.  It only takes half an hour to get a basic site on-line and you can always fill in or add additional info once it's up.  Time is not on your side.

 

Kind regards,

 

Bob



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:02 PM

Hi Max and Paddy.

 

I appreciate the warning but im not a stupid chap and am very realistic to what the historical value of the car is and as we all know that far out weights the actul value.

 

I am hoping that this will be the first of a wonderful museum I am plannng.

 

Cheers



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

Hi Old Bob,

 

I hope to have it up next week as unfortunatley I do not have the skills required to do it myself.

 

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:06 PM

and where would it be kept ?.............a tunnel ?



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:23 PM

I have a spare underground tunnel lol  .....



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:29 AM

 

They are actually quite simple Max and Paddy! Its a very simple idea and easy thing to do depending on the motivations of the synidcate i.e is it to make a return or purchased for protection reasons.

 

If you are not interested thats cool but please dont make brash comments about ones motivations.

 

Thanks

 

 

I don't consider my comments as 'brash' ...I would call them realistic

 

I worry that genuine people like yourself are being sucked in by a very clever advertising campaign. This isn't sour grapes or a pessimistic attitude its more a caution 

 

At the end of the day this car has very little value other than its history and even that has already been tampered with by its roof being straightened 

 

Be careful is all I'm saying or you run the risk of being a tool in the cars hammer price

 

 

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth is that the thing has absolutely no value whatsoever. From what I see it has never been road registered, it has no giblets, no personal history or famous owner.

 

Saying it is the last car to leave the works is like someone taking floor sweepings and coming back with a new shell and claiming that was the last car to leave the works.

 

I don't blame the guy who is trying to make money out of it, I don't fault anyone for finding it interesting, but personally I would love a very early Mini 7, in fact I'd really wouldn't waste a penny of my money in preserving it....to me it's quaint at the very best.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 06:08 AM

If I were to invest say 100 quid, would I get a return on my money?

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:00 AM

 

 

They are actually quite simple Max and Paddy! Its a very simple idea and easy thing to do depending on the motivations of the synidcate i.e is it to make a return or purchased for protection reasons.

 

If you are not interested thats cool but please dont make brash comments about ones motivations.

 

Thanks

 

 

I don't consider my comments as 'brash' ...I would call them realistic

 

I worry that genuine people like yourself are being sucked in by a very clever advertising campaign. This isn't sour grapes or a pessimistic attitude its more a caution 

 

At the end of the day this car has very little value other than its history and even that has already been tampered with by its roof being straightened 

 

Be careful is all I'm saying or you run the risk of being a tool in the cars hammer price

 

 

 

My personal opinion for what it is worth is that the thing has absolutely no value whatsoever. From what I see it has never been road registered, it has no giblets, no personal history or famous owner.

 

Saying it is the last car to leave the works is like someone taking floor sweepings and coming back with a new shell and claiming that was the last car to leave the works.

 

I don't blame the guy who is trying to make money out of it, I don't fault anyone for finding it interesting, but personally I would love a very early Mini 7, in fact I'd really wouldn't waste a penny of my money in preserving it....to me it's quaint at the very best.

 

 

I completely agree, it is just a bashed up rusty old Mini. I'm a huge GT fan but this car has no historical importance whatsoever. It holds no fascination and I wouldn't even bother going to view it in a museum. Sounds harsh and I'm sorry if you feel it needs to be cherished. Up to the owner what he does with it, good luck to him.

 

Everyone should just concentrate on enjoying their own Mini's, afterall they are all unique with probably a far more interesting past, oh and roadworthy.

 

Syndicates do not work at this level, I wouldn't waste my time but good luck.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:11 AM

It will all end in tears - money and internet always does.

 

Good luck to the seller, hope he gets what he wants, but I just can't see anything of interest in this car.

I kick myself for selling original coopers in the past, and I kick myself for not buying an really tidy Mini Se7en for £400 years ago, but If someone gave me the tunnel car I really wouldn't want it.


Edited by Captain Mainwaring, 31 May 2013 - 09:17 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:56 AM

I wont give money to someone i dont know

I wont give money towards this syndicate, the shell has no historical value, no monetary value no value at all imo

 

The other thread has sensationalized this shell, just some childish name calling idiots creating a storm in a teacup and you are being sucked into the hype.

 

If someone wants to buy it then more fool them, its worth £75 scrap value weighed in!


Edited by wolfie, 31 May 2013 - 07:57 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

Hi all,

 

Good to see you all have your own opinions, shame a small proportion of them are ridiculous comments. I posted this on the place I felt best........ Due to the Mini community always going on about how much they love these little cars! Incuding ones self.

 

I do feel some of you are missing the point some what but nevermind.

 

This is a very simple idea that I wanted to put out into the public arena to see if anyone actually had the passion and belief to do somthing about what I deem and many professionals believe to be a Mini of some historical value which is turn gives it a financial value.

 

Now I am working towards a Mini mesuem of my own and believe that this little Mini would be a draw amougst others I already own. So yes there would be a return on your investment and if it works a substantial one.

 

Cheers for all your imputs and I hope to see you all soon.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:16 AM

Hi all,

 

Good to see you all have your own opinions, shame a small proportion of them are ridiculous comments. I posted this on the place I felt best........ Due to the Mini community always going on about how much they love these little cars! Incuding ones self.

 

I do feel some of you are missing the point some what but nevermind.

 

This is a very simple idea that I wanted to put out into the public arena to see if anyone actually had the passion and belief to do somthing about what I deem and many professionals believe to be a Mini of some historical value which is turn gives it a financial value.

 

Now I am working towards a Mini mesuem of my own and believe that this little Mini would be a draw amougst others I already own. So yes there would be a return on your investment and if it works a substantial one.

 

Cheers for all your imputs and I hope to see you all soon.

 

 

I'm not sure "professionals" have anything to do with it. 

A few facts:-

 

1) In its  favour, as clubmans go, it is one of the more desirable ones - if it had been an Australian Cooper S engined one it may have been more interesting.

2) Against it - as far as I can see, there is no V5 associated with the shell, do we know if it even has a VIN?

3) Against it - no engine and a battered body shell.

4) Against it - No one important in it's history, no one famous mangled themselves in it, in fact, it has no history.

5) Against it - It is indeed mangled.

6) Against it - It isn't the last car out of the works, everyone knows what that means, and this doesn't even come close.

 

If you (or anyone) is going to purchase this thing to see a return, forget it - I'm pretty sure that most museums run at a loss, or just about break even if door tickets are considered. More to the point, I've seen plenty of scrapped 1275 GT's in the past, and I'm not sure I need to add one more to the total. I can't look at it and swoon, thinking of who has driven it, or what it won, or where it has been.....it's been in a tunnel, and was driven for 11 miles by any one of a number of BL guys, now it can't be driven anywhere because it is gibletless. It's like showing people your holiday photos, they ooh and aah, but really they prefer to be slurping a gin and tonic than looking at you with a union jack hanky on your head - they are just being polite.

 

My neighbour years back was a guy named Wing Commander Woods, and he looked after Hendon Aircraft Musuem - we had a tour of the place and he brought everything to life, the exhibits were no longer a cylinder with a bullet wedged in the fins in a plastic box, all of a sudden we could visualise the guy trying to get the thing on the ground in one piece.

 

I'm struggling to see how you can achieve that with a bent up bodyshell that means nothing to anyone.

 

Anyhow, all that aside, I hope you achieve your aim, and more to the point, I hope your syndicate doesn't catch cold over it. I personal think the thing would go for light iron prices, but if it does make heavy money, I don't see anyone making a profit out of it as an investment.






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