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[AVV IT]

Reverse lights arnt a mot requirement at all

True, but I'm really not sure how that's revelant to this?

Edited by AVV IT, 10 February 2013 - 05:36 PM.

[Bungle]

Reverse lights arnt a mot requirement at all

but fog lights are for most of us

Edited by Bungle, 10 February 2013 - 05:33 PM.

[Wil_h]

I bought one of these http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1439.l2649

Stuck it in the reverse light, rewired, bob's your knob. Passes the MOT no problem as the legal distance requirement is not part of the MOT. It would fail an IVA.

In some respects, it's not as safe as the lower mounted lamp. But in my experience, these rarely work owing to being so exposed, so maybe it is safer as it's more likely to work.

[duffman]

reverse lights aren't required BUT if they are fitted they MUST work to pass an MOT. i spoke to the Brother-in-law earlier and he said they do not check the distances between brake and fog lights but the fog must be noticeably brighter than a brake light so a distinction can be made between the two by other road users. Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

[Wil_h]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

[duffman]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

you'll be surprised, i bet there's one or two on this forum.
You always get 1 anorak that works for traffic section, and i usually get pulled by that 1 lol

[AVV IT]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

Clearly you've never met a clued up traffic seargent having a bad day then!

You are correct in that your average plod is unlikely to know or very much care either. But traffic officers are a very different breed and those I've met tend to take pride in learning the tiniest of details within the various regs and road traffic laws. As one regular officer once put it to me "they really haven't got anything better to do!"

[Dec1]

What happend to fighting real crime !!!!!! or are we road users such an easy money maker. Now that's a debate

[duffman]

What happend to fighting real crime !!!!!! or are we road users such an easy money maker. Now that's a debate

no debate, we've always been the easy target and the first to see rises in tax i.e fuel, insurance, road duty etc etc speed camera's are just another avenue to recoupe some revenue

[Wil_h]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

you'll be surprised, i bet there's one or two on this forum.
You always get 1 anorak that works for traffic section, and i usually get pulled by that 1 lol

I would be very surprised. Firstly, what exact law would this specific mod fail? The answer, none. It doesn't meet current legislation regarding the manufacture of cars, but he can't exactly pull you up on this.

Having been stopped more times than I care to remember, I have never met an unreasonable policeman. Certainly, I have never had a bobby look beyond the original reason for stopping me to try and find other faults. If they do, it's because you have not been humble enough, I find being pleasant a wonderful way to deal with the law.

[duffman]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

you'll be surprised, i bet there's one or two on this forum.
You always get 1 anorak that works for traffic section, and i usually get pulled by that 1 lol

I would be very surprised. Firstly, what exact law would this specific mod fail? The answer, none. It doesn't meet current legislation regarding the manufacture of cars, but he can't exactly pull you up on this.

Having been stopped more times than I care to remember, I have never met an unreasonable policeman. Certainly, I have never had a bobby look beyond the original reason for stopping me to try and find other faults. If they do, it's because you have not been humble enough, I find being pleasant a wonderful way to deal with the law.

But you wouldn't have your fogs on unless its foggy, at which point they'd be looking for defective fog lights, thats the point, and if it was right next to a brake light and not 100mm away they'd have you

[Dec1]

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What happend to fighting real crime !!!!!! or are we road users such an easy money maker. Now that's a debate

no debate, we've always been the easy target and the first to see rises in tax i.e fuel, insurance, road duty etc etc speed camera's are just another avenue to recoupe some revenue

Now where did I put my soap box

[Bungle]

so if that's the case the only problem is your insurance company weaselling out of paying as your car fails the construction and use regs

[Wil_h]

Also if a copper with an attitude who is knowledgeable on the regs see's it you WILL get tugged and prosecuted.

This will not happen. Coppers don't have this knowledge.

you'll be surprised, i bet there's one or two on this forum.
You always get 1 anorak that works for traffic section, and i usually get pulled by that 1 lol

I would be very surprised. Firstly, what exact law would this specific mod fail? The answer, none. It doesn't meet current legislation regarding the manufacture of cars, but he can't exactly pull you up on this.

Having been stopped more times than I care to remember, I have never met an unreasonable policeman. Certainly, I have never had a bobby look beyond the original reason for stopping me to try and find other faults. If they do, it's because you have not been humble enough, I find being pleasant a wonderful way to deal with the law.

But you wouldn't have your fogs on unless its foggy, at which point they'd be looking for defective fog lights, thats the point, and if it was right next to a brake light and not 100mm away they'd have you

How, please tell me, is a bobby going to measure the distance between your lights as you travel along the road? Lasers!!!

Not going to happen mate.

Insurance is maybe the biggest issue. But this is less of an issue than a stage 1 kit fitted without declaration and as we are almost all on classic policies, the mention of mods is not generally an issue.

[duffman]

so if that's the case the only problem is your insurance company weaselling out of paying as your car fails the construction and use regs

if i'm honest, that is the only reason i decided not to do the conversion myself as i don't drive the mini in the fog where possible anyway due to other road users. so it wouldn't really get used but if i was in a bump and the insurance weasled out of paying i would be very heavily out of pocket. not worth the risk imo