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[62S]

I don't think you've got much of a Super there - whatever the chassis number turns out to be from.

It was registered in April 1962, but if the wiper motor is dated 10 62 that would indicate October. Looks more like it had the old switcheroo when it was plate raped.

Have you a picture of inside the boot?

[surfblue63]

I don't think you've got much of a Super there - whatever the chassis number turns out to be from.

It was registered in April 1962, but if the wiper motor is dated 10 62 that would indicate October. Looks more like it had the old switcheroo when it was plate raped.

Or the wiper motor failed and it was replaced.

[liam-ds]

I don't think you've got much of a Super there - whatever the chassis number turns out to be from.

It was registered in April 1962, but if the wiper motor is dated 10 62 that would indicate October. Looks more like it had the old switcheroo when it was plate raped.

Have you a picture of inside the boot?

Hi, i think i have, the wiper motor date saying 10 62 means it was produced in the 10 week of 62 middle of march 1962 i know this as someone in my club also has a mk1 a morris mini minor his is stamped 28 62 the 28th week in 1962 also the radiator is stamped with the same date it has the correct smaller rear window, hole in the rear bulkhead, magic wand gear shift hole and many other early shell features including the high seat belt mounts. i dont think i have got a good pic of inside the boot but i will have a look

I don't think you've got much of a Super there - whatever the chassis number turns out to be from.

It was registered in April 1962, but if the wiper motor is dated 10 62 that would indicate October. Looks more like it had the old switcheroo when it was plate raped.

Or the wiper motor failed and it was replaced.

i know the red seats where taken out of a 1964 mini as the car came with a mk1 steering colum with a stalk attached the stalk is dated 16 64 and i also have a morris horn button on the steering wheel dated the same 16 64 and the car has had a later tartan red interior fitted later in its life.

Liam

Edited by liam-ds, 11 October 2012 - 08:42 PM.

[62S]

just wondering if there is any other way to tell a super apart?

There is - and I can't see any of those items present on that car in the pictures posted.

Does it have an FE Number on the inner wing above the radiator shroud? There is a guy on Specialist Mini Forum who can date those very accurately.

[liam-ds]

just wondering if there is any other way to tell a super apart?

There is - and I can't see any of those items present on that car in the pictures posted.


Does it have an FE Number on the inner wing above the radiator shroud? There is a guy on Specialist Mini Forum who can date those very accurately.

hi what are these features and i will tell you if it has got them. i dont think there is but Im not 100% sure

Liam

Edited by liam-ds, 12 October 2012 - 09:07 AM.

[mab01uk]

Most of the unique features of a Super Mini are purely cosmetic and can be removed or replaced over the life of a well used 50 year old Mini......clearly this is not a 'barn find' in time warp condition but if you have most of the original bodyshell and the Heritage certificate/chassis number indicate it is a Super you should be well pleased and over the course of time be able to re-build it with the correct parts back to its former glory, as a rare example of a Mini Super.
Have you spoken to Garry Dickens of the MCR yet?

Edited by mab01uk, 12 October 2012 - 11:49 AM.

[mk3 Cooper S]

Be prepared to get reamed for original Super bits.

I have to agree that it looks like a plate raped switched car

[mab01uk]

I have to agree that it looks like a plate raped switched car

What makes you say this just because of the plate, when it is clearly an early shell with the high seat belt mounts on the pillars, and the full front vallance?

As stated the doors may have been replaced at some point (not unusual on an old Mini) because they should have the stainless trim around the windows or evidence of clip holes and the chromed window catches.

Edited by mab01uk, 12 October 2012 - 11:57 AM.

[mk3 Cooper S]

The lack of any super trim and the fact that is has had it's plate swaped

It is an early shell but most of them were not supers or coopers

[mab01uk]

The lack of any super trim and the fact that is has had it's plate swaped

It is an early shell but most of them were not supers or coopers

No definite reasons then.......many early Mini's passed through mine and my families hands in the 1960's and 70's and at that time it was not unusual to strip a Mini of all its trim for say a respray and put back later trim and parts from other or newer models, either because it was in better condition, you prefered the colours or as a quick update! We did not care about originalty back then and would glady paint over two tone gold brocade Cooper/Super interior trim with Humbrol black upholstery paint!

Changing/selling private plates also had/has no bearing on the true history of the car in most cases.

Edited by mab01uk, 12 October 2012 - 12:48 PM.

[liam-ds]

The lack of any super trim and the fact that is has had it's plate swaped

ok. i have already said this in a prevoius post the car has the correct roof lining and sunviors fitted. these are the made from the same material as the coopers it also has evidence of having a bottom das rail fitted but some one has cut it out with a blade. i know this as when i was trying to get it started i saw it under where the steering colm mounts aswell as along where the chrome strip runs you can also see where the blade has cut into the paint. sorry but how can you tell me that with out looking over the car?

The lack of any super trim and the fact that is has had it's plate swaped

It is an early shell but most of them were not supers or coopers

No definite reasons then.......many early Mini's passed through mine and my families hands in the 1960's and 70's and at that time it was not unusual to strip a Mini of all its trim for say a respray and put back later trim and parts from other or newer models, either because it was in better condition, you prefered the colours or as a quick update! We did not care about originalty back then and would glady paint over two tone gold brocade Cooper/Super interior trim with Humbrol black upholstery paint
Changing/selling private plates also had/has no bearing on the true history of the car in most cases.

i 100% agree with what has been said above i know someone who full deseamed a 1959 mini in the mid 70s. they didnt car about origionality back then.

Liam

Edited by liam-ds, 12 October 2012 - 01:23 PM.

[mk3 Cooper S]

The lack of any super trim and the fact that is has had it's plate swaped

It is an early shell but most of them were not supers or coopers

No definite reasons then.......many early Mini's passed through mine and my families hands in the 1960's and 70's and at that time it was not unusual to strip a Mini of all its trim for say a respray and put back later trim and parts from other or newer models, either because it was in better condition, you prefered the colours or as a quick update! We did not care about originalty back then and would glady paint over two tone gold brocade Cooper/Super interior trim with Humbrol black upholstery paint!

Changing/selling private plates also had/has no bearing on the true history of the car in most cases.

No more definate reasons that you thinking it is then.
No FE number,
No original trim parts / grille
The headlining is a puzzler to be honest. I have stripped none cooper/super cars with this headling before,(Empty parts bin ?)
"Supers" were not that comon in the first place, I can understand the trim being raped for a cooper

Have done all of the modifications and painting the interiors in the past and having broken at least 2 "Supers" in the past it is just the impression that I get.

The only way to tell 100% is to check the original body colour against the colour on the heritage certificate.

Edited by mk3 Cooper S, 12 October 2012 - 03:39 PM.

[liam-ds]

ok so the fact that the vin matches up with the super number and the fact its got a super headling and has had a dash rail at some point isnt enough for me to think its a super?

liam

Edited by liam-ds, 12 October 2012 - 03:43 PM.

[mk1coopers]

Can you get a picture up of the inside of the boot, that will give some more pointers, on the MK1 Coopers / Supers the upper and lower dash rails were covered in black material, some very early cars has separate trim pieces for this, there was no padding like on the later cars that had a lower foam / black covered rail

Edited by mk1coopers, 12 October 2012 - 04:46 PM.

[liam-ds]

hi i have got a few pics of the boot i will put them up asap as iam working until late. what are the diffrances? i have also got some pics of the dash rail and the cover well what is left of it

Liam

Edited by liam-ds, 12 October 2012 - 04:39 PM.