Project Cliff - The Cherry Red Thirty
#196
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:18 PM
first we welded on all the patches to the N/S of the bulkhead, N/S inner wing, flitch panel and scuttle closure
before repairing the shock mount, we filled the inside of the bulk head cross member with rust reverter
this was my first attempt at welding, i didn't even practice on off cuts first...
we used the new scuttle to line up the new closure
then applied some seam sealer
then we bit the bullet and cut out the N/S front floor pan, outer sill, subby mount, lower rear quarter and parts of the inner sill and jacking point
we ended up cutting off a lot more than we anticipated to find some solid metal it made me feel a little sick to see cliff like this
then we started to replace the panels with fresh metal...
...that's better
tomorrow we will finish welding on the new part of the inner sill, front floor pan, outer sill, lower rear quarter repair...the list goes on and on
Rhys
#197
Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:47 PM
#198
Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:25 PM
Rhys
#199
Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:29 PM
#200
Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:16 PM
then we fitted the front floor pan...what an absolute nightmare pattern parts are the folds for the inner sill were too near to each other, the foot well was too small and the channels were too narrow and in the wrong place...aarghh :!:
then we fitted the outer sill, seam sealed and applied a layer of primer to all the fresh new metal
then we stone chipped the whole floor from the transmission tunnel up and rear subframe mounting panel forwards
we will be bush painting the underside and bulkhead/engine bay with colour matched cherry red and wax oiling when the body repairs are done
the curtain sider body we are using will be for sale when we are finished using it
Rhys
#201
Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:30 PM
Some great work you have done there, nie when it all starts to come together.
Cheers, i was glad to eventually find solid metal under all that rust, i feel much better now that we have finished this part of the body repairs
Rhys
#202
Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:55 PM
#203
Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:57 PM
Ive just read through all of your thread, well done your doing a fantastic job and i look forward to seeing the end result!
thanks for your support...me too
Cheers
Rhys
#204
Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:10 PM
some grate work there!! keep it up.
Leon
#205
Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:48 AM
Looks like its all starting to come together, just one thing, the lower quarter panel repair needs to be seam welded into the existing panel not just tacked, you are ok to spot weld on the flange but repairs to the panel need to have a continuous weld (sorry to be a kill-joy!)
Gaz
#206
Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:52 PM
looking good mate :)
some grate work there!! keep it up.
Leon
cheers pal
Rhys
#207
Posted 29 February 2012 - 06:57 PM
Hi
Looks like its all starting to come together, just one thing, the lower quarter panel repair needs to be seam welded into the existing panel not just tacked, you are ok to spot weld on the flange but repairs to the panel need to have a continuous weld (sorry to be a kill-joy!)
Gaz
hi, we were unsure what to do with the rear quarters...we want to make it strong but we thought that seem welding is un-necessary and would just risk distorting the panel...does it need to be seem welded for the mot ? as we seem welded the sill as we knew that the mot-er may fail it on spot welding the sills
Cheers
Rhys
#208
Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:28 PM
the arch wasn't too bad, just a patch on the very rear end and a patch right in the corner of the boot floor and there was two small holes broken through around the base of the seam that runs up the side of the car
then we patched all the holes...what a nightmare that turned out to be, it was like welding tissue paper in some areas so we had to cut the holes out bigger on the area where the spare wheel sits to find solid metal. we then ground the welds back and applied seam sealer
we brought some brush on seam sealer for the arches ( the light green coloured stuff) and it was rubbish...it reacted with the old paint and shrunk so we wiped it all off and re applied some of the other stuff we have been using which is really thick and sticky = good stuff
i also primed the shock mount and bolted it back on to the newly repaired inner wing
we have now finished the whole N/S half of cliff ..........but then we turned him round to attack the O/S...oh dear, it's a little worse than the N/S was
once again we bit the bullet and started to clean up the arch, the rest of the boot floor and battery box
the battery box is unbelievably solid and it needs no patches or repairs. the arch looked bad as some of the under seal had peeled away and there was lots of rust but luckily it was just surface rust and the metal is all sound...the same cannot be said for boot floor...
this is the patch we had to cut out from the centre of the boot all the way to the rear quarter and arch
so we used fairly thick steel ( 1mm ) to repair the boot floor and reinforced the bumper flange with 2mm by 25mm flat bar
we will finish welding and tidying up this repair tomorrow and then seam seal, etch prime and stone chip the whole boot floor and arches...then we start on the sill wish us luck
Rhys
#209
Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:10 PM
Hope this is of some help to you.
#210
Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:47 PM
I wouldn't imagine that applying seal sealer all over the arch would be a good idea. If you get any water trapped under it will rust out in no time. The idea of seal sealer is to seal seams which are usually only spot welded so would usually only have metal that is just touching together and could potentially let water in.
Hope this is of some help to you.
the arches were covered with under seal when we got it but thinking about it, we used seam sealer rather than under seal ...we have wiped it off anyway as it was rubbish but thanks for the advice pal
Cheers
Rhys
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