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[coopdog]

Stance just means the way a person or thing stands or is positioned, or the view a person takes on a subject. Thus in this context ito doesn't mean a lower ride height, it simply means the position in which the car is set up. It can be a low stance or a standard stance or a high stance (to cope with bumpy roads, for example).
The stance of JonnyAlpha's car is slightly high which makes it look purposeful and ready for a journey on average roads.
It looks excellent especially with the wide steel wheels.

That's not the correct meaning of stance for the stance scene and the intended perpose of this thread, having a 10" gap isn't stance.....

[Cooperman]

No, that is the correct meaning of the word stance.
I also have a Land-Rover Discovery 1 and it has a standard stance. However, many owners raise their Discoveries to a higher stance for serious off-road use. The word stance means the same thing, ie how the vehicle is set up in terms of suspension position and height.
A lowered car simply has a low stance and a raised car has a high stance. You should see the stance of the works Mini which was prepared for the Safari Rally. It has a 3" raised stance.

[mini-fvr]

I think we all know that there are many types of stance's that any car could have but I believe this particular thread was started to show pictures, ideas and techniques of classic minis with a low stance. No need to keep going back and forth. It's not that we don't like other styles and builds. I can appreciate, like and love all types of builds from All original to extremely custom/ modified.
With that, Johnnys car does look great and has an original/factory stance.

Edited by mini-fvr, 10 December 2016 - 06:10 PM.

[Chris1992]

No, that is the correct meaning of the word stance.
I also have a Land-Rover Discovery 1 and it has a standard stance. However, many owners raise their Discoveries to a higher stance for serious off-road use. The word stance means the same thing, ie how the vehicle is set up in terms of suspension position and height.
A lowered car simply has a low stance and a raised car has a high stance. You should see the stance of the works Mini which was prepared for the Safari Rally. It has a 3" raised stance.

 

Once again I have to disagree here. Yes, the word 'stance' used broadly simply means how something sits, but we are talking about the stance culture here, where the word has been adopted specifically by the culture that revolves around lowering cars. JonnyAlpha's car is indeed very nice, no complaints there, but as far as stance is concerned, no, his car is not stanced in the way that we are talking about here. mini-fvr summed it up rather well. It's like posting a picture of a red mini in a thread asking for green minis. No matter how nice the red car is, it's not relevant to what was asked.

[Midas Mk1]

No, that is the correct meaning of the word stance.
I also have a Land-Rover Discovery 1 and it has a standard stance. However, many owners raise their Discoveries to a higher stance for serious off-road use. The word stance means the same thing, ie how the vehicle is set up in terms of suspension position and height.
A lowered car simply has a low stance and a raised car has a high stance. You should see the stance of the works Mini which was prepared for the Safari Rally. It has a 3" raised stance.

 
Once again I have to disagree here. Yes, the word 'stance' used broadly simply means how something sits, but we are talking about the stance culture here, where the word has been adopted specifically by the culture that revolves around lowering cars. JonnyAlpha's car is indeed very nice, no complaints there, but as far as stance is concerned, no, his car is not stanced in the way that we are talking about here. mini-fvr summed it up rather well. It's like posting a picture of a red mini in a thread asking for green minis. No matter how nice the red car is, it's not relevant to what was asked.

+1 , I think being car design graduates we know the stance definition. ;)

[Cooperman]

Surely it is down to correct interpretation of English as to the meaning of the word 'stance'.

If someone, like JonnyAlpha, wants to post a photo of his superb Mini with the stance he has chosen, then the thread 'Mini Stance' is where he should post it. He has shown the stance of his Mini as he has set it and should not be 'put down' by anyone else who has a differently stanced Mini and want to say that his Mini hasn't got a 'stance'. Every Mini has a stance, be it high, low or middling, negative cambered, or anything else which effects the way a car sits. 

By all means change the title of this section to 'Lowered Mini Stance', then that will clarify it for everyone, it will be correct and no-one will be put down for posting photos of differently stanced cars other than lowered ones.

But then, 'gay' used to mean happy, bright and cheerful. 

[Chris1992]

Surely it is down to correct interpretation of English as to the meaning of the word 'stance'.

If someone, like JonnyAlpha, wants to post a photo of his superb Mini with the stance he has chosen, then the thread 'Mini Stance' is where he should post it. He has shown the stance of his Mini as he has set it and should not be 'put down' by anyone else who has a differently stanced Mini and want to say that his Mini hasn't got a 'stance'. Every Mini has a stance, be it high, low or middling, negative cambered, or anything else which effects the way a car sits. 

By all means change the title of this section to 'Lowered Mini Stance', then that will clarify it for everyone, it will be correct and no-one will be put down for posting photos of differently stanced cars other than lowered ones.

But then, 'gay' used to mean happy, bright and cheerful. 

 

You're just being difficult now. If we're going to be so literal, then I would say that the name 'Mini' is also rather inappropriate, because as objects cars are actually quite large in comparison with, for example, something like an an Ipad Mini, which shares the same term in it's name... Let's use another example, the word 'bowls' brings to mind an item of crockery used for food or other objects. However It's also been adopted by a sport that involves rolling balls across a lawn. If you went onto a sports forum and started a bowls thread , but someone posted a picture of some cornflakes, then I don't think you would be best pleased... See my point? The title of the thread does not need changing because the very first post details perfectly what the thread is about... Nobody said anything negative about JonnyAlpha's superb car, it hasn't been put down at all. So I suggest you google image search the word 'stance' and then decide whether his car fits that description or not.

[Cooperman]

Not being difficult at all. The reply to AlphaJonny implied that his car didn't have a 'stance', which is clearly nonsense. All cars have some sort of stance.

The name Mini was chosen by BMC to indicate that it was smaller than the iconic Morris Minor and it was originally a 'Mini-Minor', which was kind-of logical. 

The sport of bowls was derived from the French, or so my wife, who is a county-standard bowls player tells me.

The word 'stance' is an English work which means the position or setting of an object or an opinion of a person.

In automotive terms if you look up the stance of a Land-Rover, it is to do with how far it has been raised up, what size wheels and what tyre type has been fitted.

Anyone is free to post a photo of their Mini to show its stance, be it a very much lowered car for racing or a very much raised car for off-road use.

I'm sure we would all be pleased to see all types of Mini stance on here.

[coopdog]

Lol I give up ^^^

Some people just don't want to listen

This is the original post which explains what the thread is about

Hello to all i was wondering if anyones seen anything about Stanceworks and their take on slammed cars. I was wondering if anyone has got any pictures of a really low mini with alot of negative camber as I really want to gauge how low and negative camber i should go with mine.

I think you need to get yourself on google and have a look at what we are on about, because you clearly don't know about the scene

Edited by coopdog, 12 December 2016 - 03:03 PM.

[Cooperman]

If it is so narrow-minded and 'one-track' I don't think I want to know about some sort of 'scene'   .

Surely there is room for all types of Mini-stance to be on this thread, high, low and middle.

[imaparana]

If it is so narrow-minded and 'one-track' I don't think I want to know about some sort of 'scene'   .

Surely there is room for all types of Mini-stance to be on this thread, high, low and middle.

I Agree that the word stance reflects to  simply how a mini is sitting, however if you look at it in this way this may aswell be a general mini pic thread,

[Cooperman]

 

If it is so narrow-minded and 'one-track' I don't think I want to know about some sort of 'scene'   .

Surely there is room for all types of Mini-stance to be on this thread, high, low and middle.

I Agree that the word stance reflects to  simply how a mini is sitting, however if you look at it in this way this may aswell be a general mini pic thread,

 

Now there is a good idea.  

Then we can all show how we have configured our suspensions.

[Chris1992]

Not being difficult at all. The reply to AlphaJonny implied that his car didn't have a 'stance', which is clearly nonsense. All cars have some sort of stance.

The name Mini was chosen by BMC to indicate that it was smaller than the iconic Morris Minor and it was originally a 'Mini-Minor', which was kind-of logical. 

The sport of bowls was derived from the French, or so my wife, who is a county-standard bowls player tells me.

The word 'stance' is an English work which means the position or setting of an object or an opinion of a person.

In automotive terms if you look up the stance of a Land-Rover, it is to do with how far it has been raised up, what size wheels and what tyre type has been fitted.

Anyone is free to post a photo of their Mini to show its stance, be it a very much lowered car for racing or a very much raised car for off-road use.

I'm sure we would all be pleased to see all types of Mini stance on here.

 

Yes, his car has a form of stance, in the way that it sits on wheels which are on the ground. But no, his car does not have stance in the way we (and the rest of the damn internet for that matter) are referring to it. It's like you are refusing to listen. I don't need a history lesson, I know where the name Mini came from, and I know where bowls originated. That is irrelevant information. It's called an analogy... I'm sorry, but when talking about 4x4s which have been raised, we refer to them as 'lifted' not 'stanced'. As others have said, you seem very out of touch with the current car scene and it's terminology, while seemingly refusing to listen to what anyone is saying... I would suggest you maybe do some research on the subject before trying to tell everyone involved in the culture that they're wrong, but you've already expressed a clear disinterest in the subject many times in the past, so there's not much point. There are plenty of threads set up for people to post their minis regardless of modifications and style. This one was set up purely for stanced (just for you, 'lowered') Mini's, which was made perfectly clear in the first post, so I am still unable to see the confusion... I wonder how many more times I will have to repeat myself.

[59 Speed]

Would you consider this stanced?image.jpeg

After over two months - no takers?
How about this then?
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Bloody hell, I posted that at the wrong time didn't I 🙄

[Chris1992]

 

 

Would you consider this stanced?image.jpeg

After over two months - no takers?
How about this then?
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Bloody hell, I posted that at the wrong time didn't I

 

 

I feel like this is a bit unfair on you, because your car does actually have pretty decent stance   love it dude!