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[minimissionary]

I have just received my order of some Mintex M1144's from Minisport. They're to go on my Surestop front discs, since my Greenstuffs started sticking under heavy braking going over the B6278 (Amazing road. Bloody scary in places though).
On the side of the box, Mr Mintex tells me "WARNING: This material must not be used on public highways".

Erm...what? Minisport sold them to me as "Fast Road" pads. I like driving fast. On roads. So I bought these. Can't I put these on my front anchors?

[ministar]

My guess is that they arent great when cold.. Why should your green stuff pads stick?? Pistons ok?

[Bungle]

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[minimissionary]

I assumed that worn brake pads were more prone to sticking or something, but after reading a few things, it's probably the pistons I should've though about replacing. I also read that Mintex pads are the nuts. Is it possible that I was reading about the Mintex standards? Don't fancy trying to brake on cold pads and nothing happening...

[Guess-Works.com]

I've just received two sets of M1144's from another source, so have just had a look on the box... same warning..

Never noticed that before !

but I've been using them for I don't know how long on road cars, just because they are the best (IMO) on the market, even for standard 998's.

[minimissionary]

Thanks Guessworks. Makes me feel better to know they're worth the money. Was worried I'd put them on to find that they were useless unless hammered. Wonder if there's any insurance issues with them?

[Mini_Magic]

If they're good enough for the track, then they sure are good enough for the road.

That warning is probably just to cover theyre backs if you have a brake failure.

[Tamworthbay]

If they're good enough for the track, then they sure are good enough for the road.

hhmmm, try stopping an F1 car on cold brakes on a winters morning and you might disagree. Road and race are very different with requirements for each being opposite on some occasions. HOWEVER I understand from talking to a few of the manufacturers last year that new environmental regs came in regarding what could be used to make road apds and that doesn't cover 'race' pads. So if they put 'not for road use' they cover their backs. Can't say for sure on these pads but some well know alternatives have switched their labelling in this way.

[minimissionary]

If they're good enough for the track, then they sure are good enough for the road.

That warning is probably just to cover theyre backs if you have a brake failure.

I was worried about their performance from cold, since racing pads tend to need warming up to be most effective.

Edit: As above. Posted at the same time.
Edit of edited edit: Apparently not.

Edited by minimissionary, 08 November 2011 - 07:41 PM.

[Scallywag630]

Not that they are likely to check, but what if your insurance company found out about "Not for road use" and refused to pay out???

[minimissionary]

Not that they are likely to check, but what if your insurance company found out about "Not for road use" and refused to pay out???

That's what I thought.

[TrialsLife]

M1144's are decent pads, but they do need a bit of heat in them to work 100%. Alot of the guys near me doing road rallys use them, they love them.

I've got them fitted to the front of my mini, and to be honest their coming off when it gets back on the road. I'll keep them for when I know I'm going out for a session of "spirited driving" but for just driving about town, back and for work etc standard pads will do.

The chances are, when you really need them to work (for example if someone pulls out infront of you on a main road), they will be cold and won't stop you like you'd want them too.

Unless your on the brakes a fair bit, they are really not worth it.

[minimissionary]

If I'm honest, I drive quite aggressively when on country roads and whatnot, so they might be just the thing. How long (ish) would it take them to warm up properly from around town driving?

[mini13]

the 1144's are pretty good from cold, if your using them on vented discs you might have a little trouble or really cold days,

[Wil_h]

I fitted some many years ago, then took them out within a week. Braking when cold was unnacceptable.

There are better pads around for road use that work when cold and upto high enough temperatures for any road use.