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#196 SAL 821X

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

Not an update as such been doing some research while waiting on some panels from minispares.

Just adding some information to my thread so I don't lose where it is in the forum.

Fitting Central Pick Up pipe
You have to remove the large retainer plate at the pinion end of the gearbox then remove the locking plate (just slide out) and remove the layshaft and laygear, being careful not to drop the two thrust washers and any bearings that are within the laygear... the laygear and CPU have to be put together to fit wihin the case, its a little juggling act but not too difficult.

CPU = Central Pick Up pipe

Final stopper stage
Dolphin glaze as a stopper / top filler http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=U-pol+dolphin+glaze&_sacat=0&_odkw=dolphin+glaze&_osacat=0&_from=R40

Also been discussing how to overcome this little gap where I had an A panel fitted by a garage.

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Going to strip the subframe down again tonight so its a bit lighter when I'm trying the fit of the new heel board sections.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:38 AM

Right so to be able to repair the A panel section pictured above. I decided that I needed to put the skin on the door frame first so that I could check where I need to flush the A panel with the step.

I've not finished folding the lip over yet because as you can see it's somewhat of a tight fit.

I didn't want to do any more as I'm not sure way it wont right.

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Also the top of the skin is a long way of the lip on the window. If I bring the skin down to meet it the holes for the hinges wont line up.

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So that's as far as I got last night.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:11 PM

Door problems indeed !! Can't help but post in bodywork and Sonik will help for sure ! Can't believe a garage fitted an a panel like that, awful, just awful. Is that causing the tight door gaps at all??

As for the skin, clamp it up as u are doing and see how it sits in the opening, it the hinge holes need redoing then just drill new ones, it's the fitted look that counts to me, and old holes can be welded up. My pattern skinsfitted ok, but the door handle hols were out so I just filed them out so the holes lined up, looks fine and works fine too, just measure many times first, but I'm sure you know that !!

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

The A panel looks wrong finishing like that but then again i have never fitted the earlier type of A panel. I can't get to look at an early one till late next week.

The door skin is wrong at the back as the swage line is miles out at the back. The front looks good in relation to the A panel that's been fitted.

Is the door skin pattern or Heritage???

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:42 PM

Not sure sonikk was few months ago. I bought them from the stanford hall show last year, payed about £70ish for the pair i think it was. The guy i bought them off i think was called the mini door company or something. He said that they are the ones they use for there recon doors.

Hey grahama im really not sure the a panels right the more i look at it. But i was young in the ways of restoration back then. I would never have accepted it now.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:49 PM

Sal for that price they are non gen but they should not be that bad. Judging by your picture the door swage looks to be at least 1/2" too high. The gaps look good on the sides so maybe a dodgy pressing.

If the gap is even along the bottom then if you want to use that panel then you will have to section it to get the lines right. That will cause distortion though so will need to be careful and take you time.

Out of curiosity whats the top of the panel to the top of the window frame distance like?? is it fairly even along the top or on a slant??

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:56 PM

oh dear that a panels well out, post up a complete side on pic, should be clearer to help identify where its gone wrong :-)

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:56 PM

Lower one side than the other i think when i looked at it. Maybe ive not lined it up right the .

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:59 PM

Hi kylie the only ones i have of the a panel side on are

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Will have to get abetter one tomoz.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:01 PM

Sal are there any hinge mounting holes in the door frame at all??

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:17 PM

looks like just a poor pressing, only the hinge holes line up with the door in the near correct place, but yet the bottom of the panel should be flush against the door frame and follow the curve of the door step etc, also if thats on wrong then the other a panel (inner skin) is probably on wrong to

i'll put a pic up tomorrow of my pickup a panel so you have something to reference :-)

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 07:34 AM

That a panel looks horrible!

It looks like they might have used a mk3 on door step to try to repair your mk1 style door step and ended up with a mess.

Behind the a panel the step is supposed to curve up in the original arc, the LWB a panel then laps over it, there is a step when that angled portion is so the outside of the a and the outside of the door step sit at the same level.

Here are some crappy pics of a project car of mine.

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The one without the a panel in place shows my crappy attempt at trying to repair the step... which does look a bit better then their crappy attempt >.>

The big thing is you are missing the shaped triangle of metal here where the black lines are.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:25 AM

Thanks you lot this is starting to make sense now.

The garage put on inner and outer a panels so could this be where my problems start.

I understand that the step is missing a section now thanks chris, rosslin racing also comfirmed that over PM.

So, next course of action? Pull it all off and start again or is it salvagable you think.

I guess pulling it off will amount to new:

Hinge panel
A panel
Proper lwb step





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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:27 AM

Sal are there any hinge mounting holes in the door frame at all??


I had to replace most of the flange on the door frame as it was rotten. Need to drill new holes on this side of the door so i guess i can move the holes in the frame if needs be.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

Couple more from further away.

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Otherside thats not been touched.

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Door frame seems to fit ok this side without the skin though.

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