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[booton]

i'm finding the hand brake really bad,

the foot brake really good all locks up, it all adjusted etc,every part is new and on correctly just would like a better one

i just don;t find the hand brake good enough, it only just passes the hand brake test on the mot every year.

i just wondering if anyone has done it and whats involved, i have the old split system non servo yellow tag.
if legall your alloud one for the mot

Edited by booton, 13 April 2011 - 04:14 PM.

[mike.]

I'm pretty sure you've still got to have a mechanical handbrake aswell anyway, incase your hydraulics fail then your car won't roll away.

If you standard handbrake isn't up to the job, it probably just needs adjusting.

[Guess-Works.com]

The "emergency" brake needs to be on a separate system to the main brake system, therefore you cannot tap into the current hydraulics...

Secondly, not 100% sure on this, but I believe the handbrake needs to be a mechanical/physical connection and not hydraulic.

I suspect your problem is actually either quadrants which are partially seized, the cable has stretched therefore not allowing for proper adjustment, or it is just not adjusted correctly.

[lawnmowercrap]

For MOT purposes, you CAN run a hydraulic handbrake, so long as its alongside a working cable handbrake because, as stated above, in the event of a fluid failure the car would be able to roll away.
You can tap into the existing brake lines (i.e run a resovoir on the side of the handbrake) and so long as it doesnt leak or effect the brake efficiency this will also pass an MOT.

Lee

Edited by lawnmowercrap, 13 April 2011 - 05:19 PM.

[tommy13]

From the testers manual:
Hydraulic parking brakes Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable on vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968. However, they may be used to assist the application or release of a mechanical brake

The Mini handbrake is usually not too bad. Are you setting it up correctly? i.e. let the handbrake cable adjustment off, then adjust the shoes at the drum, then readjust the handbrake cable.

[charie t]

For MOT purposes, you CAN run a hydraulic handbrake, so long as its alongside a working cable handbrake because, as stated above, in the event of a fluid failure the car would be able to roll away.
You can tap into the existing brake lines (i.e run a resovoir on the side of the handbrake) and so long as it doesnt leak or effect the brake efficiency this will also pass an MOT.

Lee

so basically as above, you still need a mechanical handbrake for the mot
why are you needing a hydraulic handbrake booton?

[samsfern]

what would you need a hydraulic handbrake for? a standard handbrake is more than adequate when adjusted correctly, it hasnt exactly got a massive amount of weight to hold.

[Sprocket]

Fix the problem and not the symptom. The hand brake is more than adequate to lock up both rear wheels and get you in trouble, and should easily pass the MOT efficiency test.

One thing to check is that the brake shoes are infact installed in the correct orientation so that the correct 'servo action' is created. This action works to a greater degree in one direction of rotation than the other, which is why it is much easier to push a car backwards with the hand brake applied, than it is forwards, and also why you should always park your car facing down a steep hill, rather than facing up it.

[booton]

i have checked the shoes before on here with photos, i have adjusted the shoes up, its just i live on a very very steep hill takes a good hand brake to hold mine doesn't atm.

might add on as an extra brake power.

might come in handy if the cable breaks on day you never know

[samsfern]

i thought hydraulic handbrakes were only used in motorsports such as rallying and autotesting?

[TopCatCustom]

Never rely on a hydraulic handbrake if you are parking on a steep hill! They creep off- after a drive when the fluid is hot you put it on, then quarter of an hour later the fluid cools and pressure in the system goes down and you wave goodbye as your car is rolling away down a hill! As said- only really used in motorsport for quick use, I've wondered about using a bungee cord thing to keep one under pressure hooked onto the roll cage!

[booton]

yeh want to fit a hydralic and keep the cables so i have both systems running, to create a better hand brake.

[booton]

buy any way this is what i want to do, just would like some advice i know i need a resouvour going to the one side of the hydrolic unit but where do i put the other pipe to i put a t piece or somethine in the line going to the back maybe a one way valve so the fluid only travels in one direction, any one.

[Dusky]

Wouldn't trust it, as even toghether they won't keep your car. Its like  what TOPCAT said,, when the fluids cool it won't be holding your car, only the strongest brake applies then.. So your car , even on 2 handbrakesystems, would run away.

Only used in motorsports..

[Alex_B]

Holy thread revival Batman!