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[Little Miss B]

Hello

I'm thinking of having a roll cage fitted into my E reg classic mini. Do they really protect you as I've heard they can cause more harm than good. Is there any other ways of protecting my safety more while driving my mini.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks!
Emma

[nickhead]

personally...(i know others will disagree)

I would say yes! but only if your using harnesses otherwise a cage can become an obstruction to bang your head on in a crash.

more strength is more safety, but a rollcage wont make you invincible so dont drive like you are! lol

also make sure its a decent cage, poorly fitted or poorly constructed cages can be more dangerous than good. large metal bars bending snapping or coming loose in a crash doesnt bear thinking about.

[Little Miss B]

Thanks nickhead

Yes my mini is fitted with bucket seat and 3 point harness belts.

I'm a sensible driver but worry way too much!

I intend to get the cage fitted by a mini garage

[Beej123]

It has been said on here that having full harnesses and no roll cage is fairly dangerous, i dont know myself but it did come up, the idea of being strapped in one possition with the car folding around you

[nickhead]

to be honest if the car is folding around you i doubt you'll be able to move out of the way quick enough unless your Neo, from the Matrix...lol

[Dolly 89]

It has been said on here that having full harnesses and no roll cage is fairly dangerous, i dont know myself but it did come up, the idea of being strapped in one possition with the car folding around you

personally if your going to get a cage get a really good one the one i have at the minute not fitted is just a 6 point cage no diagonals or anything you want to be spending alot to get one that will protect you properly like i am as im not putting this one back in and always use your harnesses properly dont just slip the lap belt on like i used to its a stupid idea and shouldnt be done

[Little Miss B]

It has been said on here that having full harnesses and no roll cage is fairly dangerous, i dont know myself but it did come up, the idea of being strapped in one possition with the car folding around you

personally if your going to get a cage get a really good one the one i have at the minute not fitted is just a 6 point cage no diagonals or anything you want to be spending alot to get one that will protect you properly like i am as im not putting this one back in and always use your harnesses properly dont just slip the lap belt on like i used to its a stupid idea and shouldnt be done

Thanks Dolly. How many points is best? I keep hearing, 4, 6, 10 and 16!

Thanks!

[Beej123]

to be honest if the car is folding around you i doubt you'll be able to move out of the way quick enough unless your Neo, from the Matrix...lol

Like i said, it's what i read on here not my opinion

[Dolly 89]

It has been said on here that having full harnesses and no roll cage is fairly dangerous, i dont know myself but it did come up, the idea of being strapped in one possition with the car folding around you

personally if your going to get a cage get a really good one the one i have at the minute not fitted is just a 6 point cage no diagonals or anything you want to be spending alot to get one that will protect you properly like i am as im not putting this one back in and always use your harnesses properly dont just slip the lap belt on like i used to its a stupid idea and shouldnt be done

Thanks Dolly. How many points is best? I keep hearing, 4, 6, 10 and 16!

Thanks!

as i said i wouldnt trust my 6 point cage which is one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item5193e64660

but when my project is done im going to be getting one of these to put in it
http://www.minisport...FMS0906BLK.html
i cant find the exact cage now but its basically this one but without the diagonal covering the passenger seat because i need 2 seats

[Carlos W]

Before fitting the cage speak to your insurance company and see whether it'll increase your premium!

[Dolly 89]

Before fitting the cage speak to your insurance company and see whether it'll increase your premium!

it will increase your premiums they always do as long as bucket seats and harnesses do aswell.

[nickhead]

my cage in the saxo increased my insurnace premium,

that was a multipoint weld in, plenty good enough for its purpose.

obviously the more extreme the cage the more it will protect you.

to be honest a 6point cage is going to do more than not having any cage, i wouldnt want a multipoint weld in cage in a daily drive, would be a nightmare!

[AVV IT]

Roll cages do make a car safer in the event that the car rolls over, you are wearing a helmet and are fully restrained in a suitably protected seat with a fully tightened & correctly fitted full harness. In the event of most other collisions they can reduce the vehicles ability to crumple and absorb impact, therefore increasing the exposure of the occupants to such forces. Without a helmet, the exposed steel work significantly increases the risk of serious head & underlying brain injury to the occupants. In short this is why they are a safety device designed for track and motorsport use only, in a road car they significantly increase the risk of injury, which is why fitting one in a road car will usually increase your insurance premium. If you want to fit one to a road car then do so for styling, not for safety reasons. Also make sure that you fit approved padding to the metal work (not pipe lagging) and do advise your insurance company otherwise you may well invalidate your policy.

[samsfern]

if youre going to get one make sure you spend that little bit extra and get an fia approved one, such as a safety devices cage, that way you know its up for the job, also get some approved roll cage padding, as it hurts enough when you nut the cage with your head or knees when climbing in.

Edited by samsfern, 06 February 2011 - 02:47 PM.

[nickhead]

i wouldnt want the area a cage covers to crumple. also if you are properly restrained you shouldnt be able to hit your head etc on a cage.

alot of injurys i would guess would be down to incorrectly adjusted harnesses.