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#16 MRA

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:19 PM

Yes that's the one :thumbsup: apparently it was made for the 68 Scottish rally, Ford had just made a 4 wheel drive Capri to try and win against the Minis..... oops :wub:

Was the drive taken straight off the diff ? some sort of fluid clutch in the main prop shaft might work

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:22 PM

didnt fiat make an old panda the was 4x4 thinking small car
this kind of thing http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item43a4388ea7



yeah but it is carp, my inlaws have got one they live in the mountains in spain, the only reason they ever sold was that they were cheap

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:36 PM

Might I ask WHY ?

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:40 PM

didnt fiat make an old panda the was 4x4 thinking small car
this kind of thing http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item43a4388ea7



yeah but it is carp, my inlaws have got one they live in the mountains in spain, the only reason they ever sold was that they were cheap


one of my friends has one and he did the green lane tour of wales in it and got stuck less than vitaras and landrovers and it went in all the same situations!!!

so in no way are they rubbish you just need to learn how to drive them!!!!

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:44 PM

Check this guys thread out to get an idea of the work and cost involved:

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:48 PM

Check this guys thread out to get an idea of the work and cost involved:

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his build thread is on here some were

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 03:36 PM

BL did a 4 wheel drive rally car in about 68 :thumbsup: used a different diff housing, the rear drive coming off the diff to the back axle :wub:


Special Tuning did a rallycross Clubman but it was pretty crude. I didn't have a centre diff and it would wind it self up like a spring until it got onto the dirt and the wheels could spin.


could you not just copy this idea if you could find the info on it mate ?

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:01 PM

didnt fiat make an old panda the was 4x4 thinking small car
this kind of thing http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item43a4388ea7



yeah but it is carp, my inlaws have got one they live in the mountains in spain, the only reason they ever sold was that they were cheap



the early '80 panda's came in a 2cylinder or 4cylinder variant, they later dropped the 2 cylinder because maybe they were prone to problems after all it was quite a load to carry for a relatively small engine.... maybe that was the engine in your inlaws car because, suprisingly enough being a fiat, their engines didn't seem to troublesome for the 4cylinder.
at one stage, years ago though, i thought they were going to get popular as a mini conversion as there have been a few done but people just seemed to go for the 2wd conversions instead.....

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:40 PM

Force racing have got their twin engined car. Also on the 16v forum there is a guy doing a twin bike engine (member profile is SteveD i Think) Regards BLue

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:30 PM

An old friend of mine, the late Tony Fisher, built a twin engined Mini in the 60's. From memory it had a manual gearbox in the front engine and an automatic in the rear. I think he used it for autocross and it went well, but my memory may not be what it was.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:39 PM

I've remembered now, it was engineered by Tony Fisher and a guy named Butterworth, it was called the BuFi Mowog.
I think it had a 1071 Cooper 'S' engine in the front and a supercharged automatic 1098 engine in the back. It did a lot of autocross at National level.
Tony Fisher was Motoring News Rally Champion in a 997 Cooper in 1962 and ws a great Mini enthusiast. He passed away in 2009.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:46 PM

The Works 4wd cars were very fast - I was at Cadwell (servicing for a private entered Mini) when they appeared along with the 4 wd Capris and the Dafs.... Couldn't get near the Works cars in the paddock - they fenced them off. But it was a drive taken from the diff crown wheel - first used in 4wd Moke prototypes. It was a bit fragile - but in the snow they were fantastic!

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:28 AM

Theres also someone on 16v forum thats using the subaru wrx floorpan.
http://www.16vminicl...ead.php?t=20398

Theres also this one :techsupport: using justy 4x4 floorpan and a swift motor with a turbo setup :thumbsup:
http://www.16vminicl...read.php?t=6952

Also this one
http://www.16vminicl...ead.php?t=20310

Id personally use the justy floorpan, but use the J20 engine out of one of the suzuki jeep things and the right turbo and there capable of upto 450bhp :) now thats scarry

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 02:37 AM

I've got a old mag with the bmc 4x4 mini in it, the bmc one used a crossflow head that's all I can remember I'll post some details of it when I get home.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:44 AM

I seem to remember that the Austin Ant (a small landrover/utility vehicle) had a simple 4wd system running off a reduction box built in to the front diff (very much like the combined units used on most modern transverse 4wd cars)
it never reached full production which is a shame because it was so ahead of its time for the late 60's.

http://www.austinmem...e48/page48.html




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