There are a very few members on this forum intent on trying to change TMF. We, the majority of members, are NOT anti MINI just as we are not anti VW, Mercedes or anyother car maker. We enjoy a forum which is specific to our cars...the classic mini. Why should we change anything for the benefit of non classic owners? I am sure that 99.9% of members are perfectly polite to MINI owners and correctly suggest that they might be better on a MINI dedicated forum.
Well said, and I for one am... most of the time

No one is trying to change anything at all!
Err... But you/they are. The first (and normally only thing I do when I come onto the forum is hit the "NEW POSTS" button. I dont seek out threads through each section. Who does that?! Once in a blue moon I might head onto the local section or classified section but other than that, its the NEW POSTS button for me.
If a BINI section was added, then hitting the NEW POSTS button would show up all of the BMW BINI threads, therefore meaning I have to sort through all those to find the Classic mini related topics......... No matter how you look at it, plan and simple that
IS changing the forum
.if the headline page had the word classic in it then there would be no confusuion at all.
I think thats a good idea. Drill home the fact that this is a forum for Classic owners a little more. I am tolerant of the BINI honestly, I just dont want it shoved in my face all the time.
I own an Audi, and know a few classic mini owners who also own Audis, but I dont want an Audi section on TMF. thats what the Audi forums are for.
TMF for Classics, Mini2 for BMW Minis 
I would expect most Audi forums have recently added a section for the new A1, even though it is a newly launched model based on the VW Polo and will continue to do so as new models are launched?
(Mini2 does have a small classic Mini section but you have to be a member to see it)
Actually, sorry but I dont use a generic Audi forum! The forum I use is ONLY for Audi A8 or S8 Owners! I use it because it is a forum specifically designed for the car I drive. I dont want to use generic forums so will only go to specific related forums. Why would I want to read about the A1 when I have no interest in that car what so ever? So your point about the A1 isnt really that valid.
I use this forum because it is said to be aimed at the classic driver and MINI tolerant, which is fine by me. However if it did become a more permanent place for MINI owners it would no longer be the forum of my choice, as I honestly do only want to use specific forums that are relevant. And I have a feeling that I wouldn't be alone in finding else where to chat about classic minis and socialize with OTHER OWNERS, after all, I utilize the forum to do what I thought forums were designed for, to put people in touch with people who have something in common with, ie people who have an interest in Classic Minis. For me, that what its all about, Socializing with other Classic mini owners. This isn't something I have in common with a Bini driver, so if the BINI aspect was fully introduced into the forum the whole relevance of the forum would fall apart for me, as it perhaps would for many other users?
If the BMW Mini section was introduced, and I decided to find somewhere else to hang my digital Mini keys It would be a huge shame, as I have been happy to call TMF my forum of choice, and my electronic home for many years. But If I did leave for what ever reason I have little doubt that it would go unnoticed, or even cause anyone to bat an eyelid.Perhaps because this forum seems to have a higher than normal member turn over recently, and valued long serving and/or those who contribute to the forum don't really seem to be very.... valued. I know many members have pushed their luck a bit to far, and over stepped the mark once to often but bans or people walking away seems to be the norm and happening far to frequently, that cant be right?
We dont have a dedicated section for Metro drivers, and thats more of a Mini than the BINI will EVER BE. I dont mean it as a dig, just my view.
The thing is about the BMW MINI Forum meets Classic Mini forum subject, If people didnt harp on about their views so much or even at all then perhaps the powers that be may not understand what the majority of users want. It would seem that the majority of TMF users dont want TMF to be a joint forum. Classics for classics New for New. So, even though these NO BMW posts are annoying to have cluttering up the place perhaps people harping on about what they want is a necessary evil to get the point across?
If there is any doubt about what the members want, and there was actually a decision to be made about how to push this forum forward and put this subject to rest and the powers that be wanted the members to decide, perhaps it should be put to a vote? I know I may be surprised and not get the outcome I hope for, but what will be will be and at least the subject can be put to rest once and for all.
Edited by E.L.M.O, 24 December 2010 - 02:37 AM.