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#1 DannyTip

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 05:41 PM

I love the look of the early smiths gauges so decided to fit some to my mini but then discovered the backlights in them are pretty pants. The gauges light up fine in the middle but the numbers around the edge don't light up much at night.

I got some LED bulbs like the following which improved things a lot in the centre of the gauge but not the numbers around the edge.

Attached File  led.jpg   17.7K   65 downloads

So i got bored today and decided to take the gauges apart and have a look.

Attached File  1.JPG   101.63K   89 downloads

The backlight leaks though the holes around the numbers but as they are painted black the light reflects pretty pants. So half hour later and some white paint i ended up with this (after 1 coat i did 2 in the end):

Attached File  2.JPG   113.43K   133 downloads Attached File  3.JPG   116.38K   122 downloads

And the end result (hard to get a picture on crap phone camera)

Attached File  4.JPG   71.17K   281 downloads

Much improved illumination and a nice crisp white like a modern car rather than the old dull orange bulbs :-

#2 Bungle

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

nice :-

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:09 PM

Good job, nice thinking.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:37 PM

looks good, where did you get the leds?

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:45 PM

looks good, where did you get the leds?


I got mine from ultraleds.co.uk - I've got some blue ones in my 2 clock Spi and they look the dogs danglies! Just like a Golf... :-

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:00 PM

looks good, where did you get the leds?


I got mine from here http://cgi.ebay.co.u...#ht_1415wt_1141 took about a week to arrive :-.

Edited by DannyTip, 28 October 2010 - 07:01 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:19 PM

cool, thanks, il order some tommorow, payday, lol

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:36 PM

very nice :)

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

Good idea... you just gave me an idea...

So I had a look and ordered some little ones for the number plate light and interior light.....

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 03:30 PM

Great Idea, think im going to try something similar with my centre speedo... :)

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 06:06 PM

Great Idea, think im going to try something similar with my centre speedo... :)

I was just thinking that.........

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 10:51 PM

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I did it the hard way, but got pretty good results, I then took it out and added 10 or so more LEDS.

Thought about adding a dimmer switch like on modern cars.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:51 PM

I love the look of the early smiths gauges so decided to fit some to my mini but then discovered the backlights in them are pretty pants. The gauges light up fine in the middle but the numbers around the edge don't light up much at night.

I got some LED bulbs like the following which improved things a lot in the centre of the gauge but not the numbers around the edge.

led.jpg

So i got bored today and decided to take the gauges apart and have a look.

1.JPG

The backlight leaks though the holes around the numbers but as they are painted black the light reflects pretty pants. So half hour later and some white paint i ended up with this (after 1 coat i did 2 in the end):

2.JPG 3.JPG

And the end result (hard to get a picture on crap phone camera)

4.JPG

Much improved illumination and a nice crisp white like a modern car rather than the old dull orange bulbs http://www.theminifo..._DIR#/smile.png





I really love what you did and I have the same problem with my Smith gauges. I'm new to all this stuff and only had my mini 6mths. That and me living in Spain...I just wanted to know if you need to change or order the wiring for these bulbs or is it just a straight swap? Are they the '501' bulbs?

Edited by mav_64, 10 January 2014 - 03:06 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:17 AM

no wiring needed as the leds take less power than the standard bulb so just plug in and away you go ,they are the 501"s but are polarized so if they dont light when installed rotate the lamp holder 180 degrees and reinstall .



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:40 AM

  Don't you want to paint the back of the outer visor ring white too, so that it reflects back to the numbers on the mask as well as onto the needle?  Or maybe silver foil the back of it with some plumbers adhesive foil so that it is more reflective than the inner ring, that way it might hopefully reflect as brightly as the inner ring does even though it has a smaller area.  Looks great.






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