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[binge]

Now that im getting this 1275 engine put in my car, Im worried that with the extra power, my brakes arent going to be up to the job of stopping me safely.

Ive looked into getting drilled / Grooved Disks and Greenstuff brakepads. But ive seen a few brake servos for sale on ebay.

Is it possible to fit a brake servo to an engine block which dosent have a Servo?



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[Jammy]

A servo won't give you greater stopping power, they'll just reduce the amount of effort you need to apply to the brake pedal.

Besides they'll only take away the 'feel' of the brakes.

[Guess-Works.com]

I run std disks & mintex pads on grotbag which still houses my 1330 never had an issue stopping even from speed...

[Guess-Works.com]

but to answer the above Q, yes you can fit a servo, depending on the age of the mini and the type of braking system it has, the easiest method is to take the complete servo unit from a late model mayfair/cooper and put it onto yours..

[dklawson]

This is a topic that I see come up frequently on other boards that I visit.

There is a basic concept people need to remember. Since you (in most instances) don't drive with both the brake and gas pedals floored (at the same time)... you don't need bigger brakes just because you have a more powerful engine.

Bigger/better brakes are necessary when you increase the mass of the car and/or you decide you're going to drive faster on a regular basis. The brakes job is/are to STOP the car once you release the throttle. Therefore, if you aren't driving faster... or your car isn't heavier... you don't automatically need bigger brakes.

[Clubby1275GT]

suppose its all about peace of mind, i have a lot more faith in my gt now i have grooved discs and ebc pads, jsut because i know that it will stop when i want it to, not when the car wants to.

[vasi]

Therefore, if you aren't driving faster... or your car isn't heavier... you don't automatically need bigger brakes.

Here here.

May I also add that servo's are useless for left foot braking.

Further, I personally find that the servo's on later mini's are useless.

Remote servo's are good for that girly braking feel, and are very entertaining when the diaphram rips.

[pdaykin]

Cant left foor brake with a servo ? Someone should have tod that to the flying Finns in the 60's - all the Cooper s's had remote servos

Fitting a servo is straight forward - you can buy kits from minispaes etc for about £140 that include the extra brake pipes, brakes and servo.

You may need a new manifold as they didnt all come with a servo take-off

[binge]

My mini just about does 80.
A 1275 is good for about 100...


And it is all about peace of mind too.

Might just get grooved disks and new pads.

any recomendations?

[Jammy]

Pads get Mintex or EBC black stuff.

[Guess-Works.com]

Cant left foor brake with a servo

Well obviously you physically can, but there is no servo assistance because the servo is not doing anything, as there is no vacuum... as you have the throttle open...

I think this is what vasi is illuding towards :grin:

[Guess-Works.com]

And where are you doing 100 mph ???

Until you've tried it you don't know, so why change something because you think they are not good enough, when there's plenty of people on here telling you that they are ?

[Jackman]

My brakes are great for standard ones, running a 998 stage one (just less power as 1275) They can stop the car very quickly and in a short distance and ive never locked them yet, running no servo either, just keep up on the maintance and ajustments on the rear and they are great!

[Purple Tom]

yup I agree - I've got approaching 100 ponies under the bonnet with little tiny 7.5" discs, and no servo - and even on the Nurburgring at speeds in excess of 100mph stopping was not an issue (ok I know there's 4-pots and kevlar pads there too - but still...)

I kind of see servo's as an extra complication too - another thing to go wrong.

As people have said, uprated discs and pads is all you'll need, 8.4's are good brakes.

[Jammy]

And a servo gives you no room in an engine bay, but I don't think this is going to be a problem anymore if your buying that coffee car!