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#1 leepol83

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 09:27 PM

Hi will need an intercooler on a standard metro turbo engine

Edited by leepol83, 19 September 2010 - 02:00 PM.


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Posted 18 September 2010 - 05:13 PM

Hi ime going to fit a metro turbo engine in my 81 mini so far ive read read and read somemore and just want to check ime heading in the right direction Ime going to just pop the whole metro turbo lump in but need a few pointers

What i propose to do

Cut the bulkhead out and seam weld a bulkhead box in also cutting the corner off on the right hand side
Fit a MPI fuel tank complete with pump and run that pump
put new fuel pipes under car one to the tank and one to the fuel regulator in the engine bay 8mm pipe.
fit a kenlow electric fan and get metal fan blades
get alloy race rad
Think thats all I got to if any of this apperes to be wrong please let me know

ow ye what about the plumbing as the new engine has that sandwich plate on the top hose where does that go then
anymore input is great can never know too :)

the engine will be a bog standard metro turbo unit no mods but only maby a dump valve
thanks guys



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Posted 19 September 2010 - 05:55 PM

On a completly standard turbo lump running low boost you wont need an intercooler really.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 06:56 PM

On a completly standard turbo lump running low boost you wont need an intercooler really.

Thats great thanks mate

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:27 PM

An intercooler is not that essentual, but if your going to fit a turbo lump then it may as well be set up to run to its best. Turbos consume more air than a naturally asperated engine, the more air you get to the engine the more power you get, thus the intercooler comes into its own. The intercooler is there for a purpose and that is to cool the air before it gets to the charge side of life. This is done because cool/cold air is dencer, the dencer the air the bigger the bank so to speek. So if your going to charge the air entering the engine you may as well make it as dence as poss to give the best power gains.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:11 PM

the intercooler actually cools the charged air, as it's compressed it heats up so the intercooler is needed to try and bring it back down towards ambient.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:59 PM

I have heard an intercooler being described as not being the icing on the cake but more cake.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 09:29 PM

Sorry mix of words, meant to have said after charge. As for more cake, i think you need to come out in my skyline with the cooler and then again without and then you tell me its just more cake. When you diet, you dont stop eating!!!

Sorry guys going back to minis after 400bhp in one car and 280 in a 1970 dodgem, minis and coolers does sound like an unworthy point but the fact i had minis on and off way back when sort of stays with you and you come back to them in the end.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:59 AM

"An intercooler...has never been, nor should ever be, considered icing on the cake. A proper intercooler is more cake."
Corky Bell, Maximum Boost

Ok so now I have found the origin of that quote I feel I should explain "my" use of it.

I for one would never consider running a forced induction motor without either a suitable intercooler/chargecooler.

Which to me is the implied meaning of this quote. It is saying that an I/C is an essential part of the part of the recipe, not the nice bit of icing on the top :thumbsup:

Also thanks for the offer of a spin in your skyline but I think I shall politely decline.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:08 AM

Sorry for my miss understanding of your quote, no offence was ment by it in any way, more my understanding of what you said as in an intercooler has no point. Now i understand your quote it makes more sence and understanding. :thumbsup:

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:19 AM

Cheers Jay! No offence was taken. What is an internet forum if you can't air your thoughts & opinions :thumbsup:
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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:11 PM

Hi guys I will get a small intercooler then what's the best and how and where do they fit any pics would be good
Also where does the oil feed to the turbo go I've bought one of those braided ones and it's came with a t piece
Again pics are good it's always hard to try to explain sometimes thanks guys you've been most helpful

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:48 PM

Hi guys I will get a small intercooler then what's the best and how and where do they fit any pics would be good
Also where does the oil feed to the turbo go I've bought one of those braided ones and it's came with a t piece
Again pics are good it's always hard to try to explain sometimes thanks guys you've been most helpful



Do you have a METRO haynes manual. IIRC it's quite good with regards to the Turbo.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 11:34 PM

You'll have to do a bit of surgery to the plenum & turbo to fit a couple of hoses in place of the red silicone one that usually connects them. A few ideas here: http://www.google.co...l...q=&gs_rfai=


Oil feed comes out of the block where the oil pressure switch is, 1/8nptf threaded hole.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:09 PM

ayup lee,

ive got an rs intercooler spare if your looking for one, pm me if your interested

cheers eden




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