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[taffy1967]

The Oldest Surviving Mini?



Does anyone know where '434 NWL' is today?

Edited by Deathrow, 22 September 2011 - 07:04 PM.

[mab01uk]

The Oldest Surviving Mini?
Does anyone know where '434 NWL' is today?

Taffy, I made some enquiries on this Mini last year to the 1959 Mini Register but they have lost track of it, this is what I later found out:

While copying some old Mini TV clips to DVD I found this 1959 Morris Mini said to be a very early prototype and the oldest Morris Mini, being sold by its original owner Bernard Ferriman who worked for & bought it off BMC in 1962. (the tv clip was from late 1980's, early 90's Breakfast TV)
I found it has not been taxed since 1988 on the DVLA website and it came up on a search in these 1998/9 classic car auctions.
Sothebys, Royal Airforce Museum, Hendon
1st Auction - Not Sold:
http://www.motorbase...y-id/377245561/
Estimate: £8000-£10000

2nd Auction - Sold:
http://staging.landr...-id/1546461733/

£2975 Hammer Price (inc premium)
Year 1959
Condition rating 3
Registration number 434 NWL
Mileage-
Chassis number MA2S4D98
Engine number 3MB.U.H5334 or 8MB-U-H5334 in previous auction


The DVLA vehicle details for 434 NWL are:
Date of Liability 28 03 1988
Date of First Registration 08 05 1962
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 848CC
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour WHITE

Edited by mab01uk, 07 March 2010 - 02:03 PM.

[benb12]

I laughed when they said "In an auction today, it may fetch £1000" - I bet in an auction today it would fetch a darn sight more than that...

[scoticus]

I like the double over riders

[taffy1967]

The Oldest Surviving Mini?
Does anyone know where '434 NWL' is today?

Taffy, I made some enquiries on this Mini last year to the 1959 Mini Register but they have lost track of it, this is what I later found out:

While copying some old Mini TV clips to DVD I found this 1959 Morris Mini said to be a very early prototype and the oldest Morris Mini, being sold by its original owner Bernard Ferriman who worked for & bought it off BMC in 1962. (the tv clip was from late 1980's, early 90's Breakfast TV)
I found it has not been taxed since 1988 on the DVLA website and it came up on a search in these 1998/9 classic car auctions.
Sothebys, Royal Airforce Museum, Hendon
1st Auction - Not Sold:
http://www.motorbase...y-id/377245561/
Estimate: £8000-£10000

2nd Auction - Sold:
http://staging.landr...-id/1546461733/

£2975 Hammer Price (inc premium)
Year 1959
Condition rating 3
Registration number 434 NWL
Mileage-
Chassis number MA2S4D98
Engine number 3MB.U.H5334 or 8MB-U-H5334 in previous auction


The DVLA vehicle details for 434 NWL are:
Date of Liability 28 03 1988
Date of First Registration 08 05 1962
Year of Manufacture Not Available
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 848CC
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour WHITE

Thanks Mab01 and someone said on another forum that it may now be in Japan?

[taffy1967]

I like the double over riders

Extra crash protection?

[CobraV8]

interesting link - make sure you expand the detail:

http://www.artfact.c...-1-c-0i0w14g40t

and the sale by Southebys:
http://www.motorbase...-id/1546461733/

2975 - what a bargain - that car is surely worth a lot?

Edited by CobraV8, 09 March 2010 - 09:14 PM.

[CobraV8]

I like the double over riders

Extra crash protection?

Maybe that is a trend that we could all follow - have two sets on to honor the old guy.

[mab01uk]

interesting link - make sure you expand the detail:

http://www.artfact.c...-1-c-0i0w14g40t

and the sale by Southebys:
http://www.motorbase...-id/1546461733/

2975 - what a bargain - that car is surely worth a lot?

Thanks for that extra detail copied below:

Lot 320: Morris 1959 MiniMinor Registration Number: 434 NWL Chassis Number: M/A2S4/D/98 Engine Number: 3MB.U.H5334 E4700-5700 One of the oldest known surviving examples of the legendary Mini, and with a particularly interesting history.

Auction House: Sotheby's

Auction Location: United Kingdom

Auction Date: 1999

Description: Morris 1959 MiniMinor Registration Number: 434 NWL Chassis Number: M/A2S4/D/98 Engine Number: 3MB.U.H5334 E4700-5700 One of the oldest known surviving examples of the legendary Mini, and with a particularly interesting history. This 1959 Mini, the 40th Morris Mini-Minor built, was completed on May 25th to export de-luxe left hand drive specification. Sold to Bernard Ferriman, in 1962, the Mini remained in the same ownership until acquired at auction in 1985 by Penta Reading, who thoroughly restored the two-door saloon. Auctioned by Sotheby's in 1987, the car was bought by Today newspaper and featured as a competition prize in 1988 The winners formerly exhibited their prize at a motor museum (since closed) and have carefully maintained and garaged the saloon, painted in Old English White. A V5 registration document, M.o.T certificate and a trace certificate from British Motor Industry Heritage Trust, (who estimate that the Mini is among the ten oldest surviving), are included.

Edited by mab01uk, 10 March 2010 - 12:14 AM.

[scoticus]

I like the double over riders

Extra crash protection?

Maybe that is a trend that we could all follow - have two sets on to honor the old guy.

I think im going to do it to be honest, looks really good

[taffy1967]

Who knows, maybe BMC toyed with the idea of two sets of overriders and '434 NWL' was the guineapig?

[peter-b]

I like the double over riders

Extra crash protection?

Probably put on the meet 2011 design rules regarding impact protection. When you think of it, it would have DOUBLE the standard impart protection

[hksubaru]

I'd bite his hand off if it was 1k Would be great to find out where it is now.

[hksubaru]

http://uk.autoblog.c...ni-is-he-crazy/

[mattprinn1997]

I know this topic is old now, but does anybody acctually know where it is?

Edited by mattprinn1997, 28 January 2013 - 08:23 PM.