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[Bungle]

all i can find is

Your vehicle will be subject to the SVA scheme if it is less than 10 years old and requires first licensing and registration in the UK.

but that's for a imported car not registered in the UK before

have you got a link for modified cars that were previously registered in the UK ?

[R1mini]

Would i be permitted to drill a hole in my bulk head (around 35x60mm) without needing an IVA?

No boxes welded in, just a hole.

if you can't find the info on the ACE web site you can ask questions on there and they will do their best to find you a answer

IVA for a small hole, surely there is no need to ask anyone?

Cheers
David

[Burnard]

You never know

Its for the cable linkage to go through for my gearbox...

[clubmanvan]

all i can find is

Your vehicle will be subject to the SVA scheme if it is less than 10 years old and requires first licensing and registration in the UK.

but that's for a imported car not registered in the UK before

have you got a link for modified cars that were previously registered in the UK ?

page 9 mate clearly states "older cars" (over 10 years old) or 25 years for commercials http://www.businessl...ide_V3_0111.pdf

[mini-geek]

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• 'Incomplete' vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for maintaining public order.
• Mobile machinery

[mini-geek]

In all cases, IVA (whether Basic or Normal) is only required for passenger cars and light goods
vehicles less than 10 years old, which require first licensing and registration in the United Kingdom

[Bungle]

only had a quick read but still can't see anything for modified old cars

most of that is still for new imported cars not registered before in the UK

i'm off out tonight so will let you lot pick holes in it

[Shifty]

Ok then....

My Elf is fairly rotten and I'm considering doing a full heritage floor, as I'm tight(also I'm running a rod change box as well) I want to fit the more available(and cheaper) Rod change floor pan.

As I'm using the later floorpan on an early car is this classed as a modification or a replacement part?

[roofless]

Ok then....

My Elf is fairly rotten and I'm considering doing a full heritage floor, as I'm tight(also I'm running a rod change box as well) I want to fit the more available(and cheaper) Rod change floor pan.

As I'm using the later floorpan on an early car is this classed as a modification or a replacement part?

strictly speaking.....modification.....I'm doing the same with the Mk2 so keen to see answers on this one

[Shifty]

only had a quick read but still can't see anything for modified old cars

most of that is still for new imported cars not registered before in the UK

i'm off out tonight so will let you lot pick holes in it

you only needed a quick read
it is for the iva test??? weather a import modification or registration it does however state that a IVA does NOT apply to "old" cars over 10 years old, my advice would be print the page off say nothing to vosa/dvla (in order to excite them) and if you are stopped for your mods present the info that they have made available.

If this is the case then how are they getting away with prosecuting the landrover people, why has a mate of mine scrapped his project due to the new regs if they don't apply to vehicles over 10 years old?

[clubmanvan]

Ok then....

My Elf is fairly rotten and I'm considering doing a full heritage floor, as I'm tight(also I'm running a rod change box as well) I want to fit the more available(and cheaper) Rod change floor pan.

As I'm using the later floorpan on an early car is this classed as a modification or a replacement part?

strictly speaking.....modification.....I'm doing the same with the Mk2 so keen to see answers on this one

you will be replacing "like for like" so just do it, and as your car over 10 years old.....

[Shifty]

Ok then....

My Elf is fairly rotten and I'm considering doing a full heritage floor, as I'm tight(also I'm running a rod change box as well) I want to fit the more available(and cheaper) Rod change floor pan.

As I'm using the later floorpan on an early car is this classed as a modification or a replacement part?

strictly speaking.....modification.....I'm doing the same with the Mk2 so keen to see answers on this one

you will be replacing "like for like" so just do it, and as your car over 10 years old.....

Have you read your link properly?

The 10 year rule only applies to car that haven't been previously registered in the UK, My Elf has been around for a LOT longer than that.

[mini-geek]

who is ever going to be able to spot that it has the wrong floor pan???

[Burnard]

I don't want a cigar(smoking stunts your growth.......!!!)

What about my bleeding floorpan......(and roofless)

Modification, same as fitting 6inch sills because the standard 4.5's have rotted away. (not talking about oversills)

Unless you can prove that you can no longer get hold of the earlier type floor pan, in which case i think you would be alright.

[garrett3]

Rebuilding a car can in some aspects acn call for an IVA and they cannot sometimes give even me a clear answer and I am told they will take a "pragmatic" approach.

However if you repair a car with like for like and repair well you should have no problems really.

Its all just common sense and little has changed from the days of the SVA.

Just look at the points system if you are rebuilding a car and use common sense when changing parts to use the same as it left the factory.

As for the shell/structure repairs are allowed as long as they are in line with what was there originally, after all some cars are heavily damaged and repaired through insurance and they dont need an IVA.

Its all about the car being like what it states on the logbook and not doing anything to radically alter it.

you can change the floorpan for the same as what was there but if you modify it and have a perspex panel for instance then this is a monocoque modification that would require inspection.
I very much doubt you would have trouble though if you fit a generic repair panel for the mini even though its not an elf panel etc.

You can fit a big engine and uprate the suspension but watch the points.

You cut your bulkhead then you are modifying the monocoque structure. Now the odd hole for a pipe isnt of immediate concern providing the structure is not altered but if you drill out loads of holes to save weight then this would be an issue (the pragmatic approach).

A small webber box may give you issues but use common sense and dont cut the cross member and that way if you have one already they may take a pragmatic approach and use an engineering mind to see if its well fitted and causes any structural issues, you get me?
This is not permission to do so and is just for those who allready have them and for sake of using an example etc.

Turbo boxes and anything that removes a section of the cross member is asking for trouble! and will require an inspection.

To be honest just dont take the p**s and you should be ok. Landy boys have been swapping bits they know they shouldnt and swapping v5's around for years and its now biting then on the but! Think twice before going the tax ex route with a "reshell" in the future.

Lots of cars out there that are not what they say on the logbook and thats why this system is in place.
Its also in place to avoid dangerous mods that lead to innocent peoples deaths. after all I would not be happy if someones hom,e made subframes collapsed and took my kids out.
Its all just common sense