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[Deathrow]

...A huge example is TV tax.....how do you guys pay this and not be angry about it!?

No adverts on BBC

And you only have to watch one show on an american TV channel and you really appreciate the BBC!

I mean come on, the end of the show, then adverts, coming back for the credits, then more adverts. I've seen this with my own eyes!

[Trail of Dead]

...A huge example is TV tax.....how do you guys pay this and not be angry about it!?

No adverts on BBC

And you only have to watch one show on an american TV channel and you really appreciate the BBC!

I mean come on, the end of the show, then adverts, coming back for the credits, then more adverts. I've seen this with my own eyes!

Is this some kind of English "inside joke"? I'm missing something here....when we had British TV in our house there were just as much commercials on as there are back home. The thing that gets me is the TV tax commercials that basically say "If you don't pay your TV tax and get caught watching TV then we will hunt you down and toss you in Jail". Kinda absurd if you ask me. Plus most of the programming was American TV shows anyhow....I've seen it all before! And NOW I have to pay for it?! The only Brit TV I ended up watching was Discovery Turbo....that was quite nice!

[Lukie-J]

My Scamp is registered on the V5 as a Scamp, will this require a test as it used to be a mini pick-up?
It is on a 1979 plate but built in the mid 80s I think.
Especially as I have just changed the engine from a 998 to a 1275!
Q-Plate on that wouldn't be so bad but still a bit annoying.
Although, if there are a lot of cars being converted to a Q-plate then surely the value wont be affected too much, because a lot of people will be in the same boat?

[mini danny]

if i get my mini deseamed or put a vtec in will it require a iva thanks dan

[Bungle]

you can ask questions on the ACE site

but I think as it says scamp on the log book you are ok

if VOSA do a road side inspection the V5 and whats infront of them will match

[Bungle]

if i get my mini deseamed or put a vtec in will it require a iva thanks dan

yes if you cut the seams off you have modified the monocoque

[pikey7]

surely the most important thing about this is WHEN you had the modifiactions done? They are bringing in new changes to what constitutes a requirement for an IVA yes, but if your vehicle is already modified, and has passed numerous MOTs and changes to the V5/c have been previously accepted, the the DVLA have no leg to stand on as far as modifcations are concerned?

A 1979 standard mini has no chance of passing any current homologation test for a new motor vehicle, but does that make it illegal? no. To modify it NOW with the regulations changing to basically try to either keep it standard, or to make the modifications bring it up to date DO make it need an extra test, and could possibly make it unroadworthy.

so i guess the major question is a simple one... who decides if the car needs an IVA test? If I was to basically put a hayabusa engine in the back, change the front subframe to a Z-cars one, stick in a cage, remove the transmission tunnels and replace the roof, front end, rear quarters, and boot floor with CF ones, and go for an MOT which it passes, then how do I know I'm supposed to go to the dvla and declare it all and maybe go for an IVA? and what happens if i do do this, and get pulled by some nob with a clipboard outside of a show?

[Frozo]

If you have to spitt your mini does that class as modifying the bulkhead?

also because i have to send off for the V5 my dad has put down that the car is a project, think they will keep checking on it?

[Tupers]

surely the most important thing about this is WHEN you had the modifiactions done? They are bringing in new changes to what constitutes a requirement for an IVA yes, but if your vehicle is already modified, and has passed numerous MOTs and changes to the V5/c have been previously accepted, the the DVLA have no leg to stand on as far as modifcations are concerned?

A 1979 standard mini has no chance of passing any current homologation test for a new motor vehicle, but does that make it illegal? no. To modify it NOW with the regulations changing to basically try to either keep it standard, or to make the modifications bring it up to date DO make it need an extra test, and could possibly make it unroadworthy.

so i guess the major question is a simple one... who decides if the car needs an IVA test? If I was to basically put a hayabusa engine in the back, change the front subframe to a Z-cars one, stick in a cage, remove the transmission tunnels and replace the roof, front end, rear quarters, and boot floor with CF ones, and go for an MOT which it passes, then how do I know I'm supposed to go to the dvla and declare it all and maybe go for an IVA? and what happens if i do do this, and get pulled by some nob with a clipboard outside of a show?

I would have though that if you're doing those kind of mods to you mini it should be IVAed before you take it for an MOT and that if you couldn't show the inspector an IVA certificate, he'd be fully within his rights to refuse to test it. An MOT is designed to make sure previously sound cars are still solid and safe for use on the road and not a test of how safe your structural modifications are.

[Bungle]

surely the most important thing about this is WHEN you had the modifiactions done? They are bringing in new changes to what constitutes a requirement for an IVA yes, but if your vehicle is already modified, and has passed numerous MOTs and changes to the V5/c have been previously accepted, the the DVLA have no leg to stand on as far as modifcations are concerned?

yes this is true

if you can prove the mods were carried out more than 27 years ago (before the rules were made) the you can keep the mods with out an IVA test

proving the mods were carried out more than 27 years ago on a 1990 mini with honda V tec engine might be tricky

[bananaman]

It's still a bit of a grey area when it comes to the MOT inspectors, but if you ring your local DVLA office, they are more than happy to answer your questions.

I had a big problem with one of my projects (look for Scampie on here)

He was a complete hand built special several years ago, but still listed as a Clubman Convertable on the V5 (obviously modded and declared at some point in it's past). If you can keep a record of when the mods were done, that will help alot.

The local MOT guy didn't know where I stood with it, so I spoke to the guys at Borehamwood, and one of them popped over for a look, no charge.

The list of things that I'd need to change for the IVA were massive, basically because it didn't match the V5 I was stumped. The only options were a reshell into a clubman body, or break for parts. Scampie was too many sharp edges to ever pass the test, such a shame as he looked sooo cool.

The inspectors are as miffed with this as we are, at least the ones I've spoken with are.

[adam_93rio]

a couple of people have said that they do this every 10 years or so and it goes away because it doesnt get enough interest, so shouldnt we, instead of making a thing and panicing about it we should just ignore it and hope it passes?

just the people on a few forums could be enough for them to give the go ahead

unless im missing someting and it has a start date already

[onefastmoke]

a couple of people have said that they do this every 10 years or so and it goes away because it doesnt get enough interest, so shouldnt we, instead of making a thing and panicing about it we should just ignore it and hope it passes?

just the people on a few forums could be enough for them to give the go ahead

unless im missing someting and it has a start date already

Hi, from the way that I've picked it up, the rules have been in place for 27 years its only the method of inspection and testing that is really changing.

Edited by onefastmoke, 24 February 2010 - 02:39 PM.

[Ethel]

Shame about Scampie, surely if he was a clubbie then there's every chance he predated SVA? It would have depended on there being an established build date but I'd say that should have been up to the DVLA.

[bananaman]

The Clubbie he used to be did, but I had no proof of when he was built into the tiny moke-alike. I would have asked Andy who I got him from, but unfortunatly he's no longer with us. (He was the guy in the accident on the way to the IMM 50)