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#31 vasi

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 06:22 PM

£90 is not a bad price when you compare it to a Ripspeed gearknob priced at £30.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 07:41 PM

my mind won't let me comprehend 90 for a gear stick....30 for a gear knob...ripspeed, boy racer tat

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 11:46 AM

Cool, it actually went in.. but then I noticed that the screw top was not just sitting on the top where it needed screwing in to secure...

No.... it was actually resting on the nylon dome of the selector mechanism, someones got their dimensions wrong..

The distance between the top of the socket and the rod, is less than the length of the gear lever.... oopsie :wub:

I had exactly the same problem with one of these that i bought second hand (was never fitted though)

Basically, i have solved the problem in two ways:

The little white nylon ball at the end of the shifter needs a bit of sanding down to make it slightly smaller but make sure it is kept smooth - i used a dremel tool for this.

The nylon dome at the top of the selector mechanism needs a fair bit grinding off the bottom of it for which i used a dremel again - you will notice that there is a recess in the centre to allow for room for the weld on the metal flange it sits on - this will no longer be effective, so i ground the weld down to sort this out so the nylon dome sits flush on the mechanism.

You have to get it so that the plate which screws into the top will tighten against the housing without pushing onto the nylon dome, just locating onto it - this means that it will take several grinding attempts to get it just right - you dont want to take too much off and make it all loose in there!

Anyway, smear everything in grease especially the nylon ball and dome and tighten the screw top right up on the housing and bob's your uncle

The shifter works very well and i cant believe it can be any better with a more expensive unit such as a genuine kad, but you certainly get what you pay for in terms of manufacturing accuracy and expect to do a lot of work to get the cheap one right - took me about 4 hours in total - not bad for a 20 min job!

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 12:08 PM

The shifter works very well and i cant believe it can be any better with a more expensive unit such as a genuine kad, but you certainly get what you pay for in terms of manufacturing accuracy and expect to do a lot of work to get the cheap one right - took me about 4 hours in total - not bad for a 20 min job!

I guess therein is the issue then....

It took 4 hours to fit the quickshift. Lets assume I paid a garage to fit it, and they charged £40/hour labour (which is quite cheap these days). That £160 labour plus the £29.99 price of the quickshift.

Fitting it at home doesn't cost you any money, but it does cost you time...

I'd rather pay £90 and take 20mins to fit it if I'm quite honest, hence why I got the KAD one.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:00 PM

even with everything correct i reckon the fitting time would be 1-1.5 hours

a garage would probably not go to the trouble of modifying something to fit either - they would just tell you to send it back!

at the end of the day you get what you pay for - proper testing and R&D costs money to develop a product - that is why the kad is more money - because its been tested and it works (from what i have read on here anyway).

whoever made this one has neglected to show it to a car, let alone fit it to one before offering it for sale

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:33 PM

yeah its a shame, because they're good value, if they'd just ironed out the little problems before selling they'd save themselves a lot of bother

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 03:48 PM

So we're better off going for the KAD one then? Is that the final conclusion?

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 05:06 PM

if you can personally justify the outlay, then yes, go for the KAD one, for feel and ease of fitting. IMHO the feel of the stick is better than the cheaper quickshifts, but thats just what I think.

it will be interesting to hear what the supplier of GW's 'guinea pig' stick says....

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:30 PM

it will be interesting to hear what the supplier of GW's 'guinea pig' stick says....

i for one would be very interested to hear the explanation!

mine is the exact same stick

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 09:10 AM

Actually, had a chat the other week about this, as it's still not sorted, and it looks like the ball on the end of the stick is too big, and hence is preventing the stick from locating properly...

Still not got one which works correctly though

So at the moment, the GW consumer test still points towards KAD as the 5 Star option

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 12:12 PM

oh my god, what a blatent rip off of KADs quickshifter.. I hope KAD have got it patented or something..

as for spending £90 on a quickshift, have a go with one and youll want to buy one.

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 12:59 PM

how exactly do they make the shift smaller? and how much smaller does it make it?

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 01:10 PM

Will it get rid of the "slack" in neutral? Or maybe fix the slipping out of 2nd gear?

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 01:16 PM

no and no...

The work on the princple of moving the pivot point of the lever further up, therefore less movement at the top to produce the same movement at the bottom..

It does not make it shift gears any quicker, and quite frankly if you do try to and don't get the clutch right, you're going to be seing me for a new gearbox soon after :cheese:, so why they call it a quickshift I don't know, but does reduce the amount of travel on the shift.

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Posted 03 January 2006 - 01:47 PM

I think I will stick with my standard gearshift!

I would only probably switch over if I tried someone elses and it was nice to use.




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