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#616 Kam

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 09:51 PM

Right, I've just remembered I'm supposed to be taking this to the nurburgring in 10 weeks time with TMF! :errr: errrmm not looking good.......

List is not getting shorter either, still got loads to do but main problems are booking in the front end to get it painted after I've finished it, trying to get the exhaust made up, still make the gearlinkage without the exhaust, wire in the gauges and sort out new headlight wiring from clubman to roundnose, get the block back and assemble the head, find a map and hope it starts, get the suspension setup, then run the engine in, then book it in for mapping, and fit a MOT in somewhere. And still quite a few other bits n bob to do :genius:

I'm not gonna say at this moment in time I can't make it, ain't gonna throw in the towel yet, unfortunately some of the above things need to be booked in so thats outta my hands, but will definitely give it go......

Ok, started off with wanting to sort out the bulkhead, I never like the 'paintjob' I did on it, also my welds for the box were from my early days were not the neatest :) wasn't sure how to tackle it but got everything out the way and ready

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Decided to pick up some soundproofing, its similar to dynamat I think, its priced almost the same :wub:

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Cut up some newspaper templates of the whole bulkhead and transferred them over

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This the point where its best to remember where the holes are ;)

Heated it up and whacked it on

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Had a bit left over so did the reverse side, but only the box end

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For the cabin, I still wasn't 100% sure on what to do, so got some flashing tape from wickes

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Some say the primer stuff looks like chocolate when pasted, I say yeah right......it looks to me like the leftovers from the following morning after a curry the night before!

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Its stinks like what it looks like :(

I had to get out the cabin, it honestly was that bad, so decided to work on the other side, dropped the 1.8 type-r lump in and got the correct engine position, you can see the cut out on the front removable bar

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While I'm still waiting on the 2.0 lump this will give me something to at least position what I can, everything for the 2.0 will be set as it is now on this 1.8, there's still a couple of bits of items with clearance I need to look at but not much I can do about that, just gotta hope when the 2.0 lump is here it all clicks together nicely, should be interesting :w00t:

One thing (apart from the rad) thats worrying me was the alternator, I want to make use of my bracket as it wasn't cheap, I got the original honda alternator here and the tiny suzuki swift one, the swift is only around 40 amps I think, I'm gonna be running some dials now and probably a sub/amp again (yes I know childish) :thumbsup: so wasn't too sure on the swift one keeping up....

The honda one is definitely a no no, its basically massive, back section was hitting on the tower bolt and the pulley was pretty much on the inner wing

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and thats with everything set as far back as it will go, infact there is no movement, its locked in like that!

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A few months ago I bought another alternator, this time for a suzuki jimny, a 70 amp one that had the same bottom lug casting as the honda, seller kinda 'misprinted' the actual size, it also had a dent in the pulley wheel which was probably done in transit as it looked like a monkey had packed it, I wasn't happy so I left it aside as sometimes I cba with sorting crap out on ebay, but today I dug it back up, its actual size is the same as the honda, honda and two suzukis

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Initially I found the new jimny one holes didn't align up with the bracket anyway

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Orange bits were where its was hitting/catching

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 09:52 PM

So I shaved off the excess bits and drilled a new hole, also had to 'lose' of one the body mounting holes, it'll live though, its got another three :(

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At its furthest back position

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Underneath with around 5mm of clearance

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At its furthest forward which will be its normal position

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Underneath with around 12mm of clearance

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From the other side

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Beauty is it will have a tensioner underneath so I can position it as close to the head as poss for maximo clearance

Sorted ;)

Next job - hope the smell in the cabin has died down! :errr:

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 10:29 PM

You just need an air gun now so you can swap the pulleys over :errr:

Do you seriosuly think you will get it back on the road for Nuremberg run? Gonna be one hell of a job.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 10:50 PM

Looks good Kam better hurry up so you make it to Brands Hatch this time tho lol

Do you seriosuly think you will get it back on the road for Nuremberg run? Gonna be one hell of a job.


What run is that? Where going to the Nurburgring :errr:

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 10:54 PM

well i typed nurburg but firefox said i spelled it wrong :errr:

Asin the run from england to nurmburg....

I do believe it is called the 'ring run'

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 02:34 PM

Nice work Kam, whos your lady friend on the laptop? :dontgetit:

By the way you wouldn't have a spare B16 clutch going? mine slipped pretty bad yesterday after some carful driving :thumbsup: so i think it will be on its way out soon, although its the original clutch and has done 122,000 haha.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 03:01 PM

Nice work Kam, whos your lady friend on the laptop? :-

By the way you wouldn't have a spare B16 clutch going? mine slipped pretty bad yesterday after some carful driving ^_^ so i think it will be on its way out soon, although its the original clutch and has done 122,000 haha.


Thats my other girlfriend Denise :thumbsup:

Sorry mate only clutch I got here is the one I blew up :dontgetit: that was a blueprint one, still not sure what clutch to get, thats good mileage on yours but yeah depends on your driving.....my one didn't last 2k with my driving :-

You just need an air gun now so you can swap the pulleys over :)

Do you seriosuly think you will get it back on the road for Nuremberg run? Gonna be one hell of a job.


Is that how you take it apart? I didn't know, cheers, will look into it now as I want to take it apart to clean it up, and also to check any shavings didn't drop in there when I was cutting it up

As for the 'ring run' I'm not sure, I will dam try though

Looks like its time to eat, sleep and crap mini once again! :thumbsup:

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:04 AM

Haha no problem, i bet you was giving it some beans to kill the clutch that quick! by the way what was the blueprint clutch like?

I don't know if i should get a OEM clutch or the blueprint or even just get something better than them both.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 04:07 PM

Sorry Nick my bad, it was the exedy clutch I blew up, I had the blueprint one in from the start and changed over to exedy as there was some funny play when pulling away, when I took it out the clutch release bearing just fell apart in my hand, decided then to stay away from blueprint and got the excedy. All I will say is the car felt so much nicer pulling away even under load, really did pick up well. I never understood how the standard clutches differ between the makes, got my answer O_O

Blueprint is meant to be the same as OEM, but I don't think it is, it seems like a cheaper version of it. OEM is top notch stuff, I would only get OEM when it comes to things like cambelts, clutches or gaskets, not worth taking a punt with aftermarket stuff in these areas

Apart from blueprint and OEM you need to dig into your wallet as you've got excedy and also F1 racing stuff. I got the exedy clutch as it was always getting good reviews so decided to try it out, it was well worth the money BUT all comes down to how the clutch is run in, I ran my in as best I could :crazy: but unfortunately my last trackday driving was its final nail in the coffin - that was my fault plain and simple not the clutch

So run it in and all should be well, if you want to drive like me though :wacko: then get an uprated one with stronger springs DON'T get a paddle clutch! You have been warned! :)

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 01:40 PM

Cheers for the advice Kam, lets hope my clutch lasts a little longer so time to drive sensible :( or not haha.

I would love to see your mini when its finished, do you reckon you will be going to any shows this year?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:17 PM

I would love to see your mini when its finished, do you reckon you will be going to any shows this year?


I'm starting to doubt whether I can make the TMF 'ring run in ten weeks.........but if by some miracle I do then my first show will more than likely be the miniworld action day, but to be honest if I make it to germini I'm gonna do all the bloody shows I can before the end of the year! :(

Have you got a build diary on your one? Would love to see it

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:00 PM

I dont quite know where you live, but im free pretty much all summer so if you want any help id be more than happy to lend a hand :(

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:33 PM

Unfortunately i don't have a build thread because my B16 engine is in my civic EM1 haha, the amount of times i look at the two cars next to each other and think i should put the engine in the mini!

Maybe one day i hope :(

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:55 PM

Unfortunately i don't have a build thread because my B16 engine is in my civic EM1 haha, the amount of times i look at the two cars next to each other and think i should put the engine in the mini!

Maybe one day i hope :(


If you got the space/time and money then go for it, if you got any doubts of any then keep it in the civic, you can still enjoy the mini either way, I did

I dont quite know where you live, but im free pretty much all summer so if you want any help id be more than happy to lend a hand :)


Cheers Burny, but when I'm in one of my "won't be beaten" moods its usually best to leave me to it! :) at the moment I'm just looking at it, still got things to buy but not sure what as still got headaches with rad etc I'm still battling with the other suzuki swift alternator I was gonna use as now I'm gonna try and get the original honda one to fit, the other smaller suzuki one has been left aside for you, no rush though, thanks for the offer :thumbsup:

This build is very close to becoming fun! :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:04 PM

If you need any help give me a shout too :(




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