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[DMC]

I cannot get this outer metal clip to engage tightly, I must be doing something wrong. I used a nylon "zip tie" or plastic tie on the smaller inner part of the pot joint and that seemed to tighten up nice and firm. I did clear off any sharp edges from the inner tie.

Is this acceptable? I got it tighter than I could with the metal band on the smaller/inner part of the gaiter. But before I cinch on the bigger outer tie I want to make sure I am not setting my driveshaft up for future disaster.

I also want to make sure I am not putting too much or too little grease into the joint. The kit I purchased came with a tube of grease almost the size of a tube of toothpaste. I put about 2/3 of the grease in and am now second guessing myself as to whether I should slop the rest of the tube in.

Cheers!

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[jkjaxor]

I cannot get this outer metal clip to engage tightly, I must be doing something wrong. I used a nylon "zip tie" or plastic tie on the smaller inner part of the pot joint and that seemed to tighten up nice and firm. I did clear off any sharp edges from the inner tie.

Is this acceptable? I got it tighter than I could with the metal band on the smaller/inner part of the gaiter. But before I cinch on the bigger outer tie I want to make sure I am not setting my driveshaft up for future disaster.

I also want to make sure I am not putting too much or too little grease into the joint. The kit I purchased came with a tube of grease almost the size of a tube of toothpaste. I put about 2/3 of the grease in and am now second guessing myself as to whether I should slop the rest of the tube in.

Cheers!

i have had problems from using cable ties in the past, the locking part sometimes rubs on the rubber when its folded over and can wear through the boot prematurely, if the cable tie doesnt rub then i dont see why it wouldnt work, aslong as its tight and the ends are trimmed back,
jack

[Dan]

You ideally need a special tool to close CV bands tightly. Without it they are a real pain, you can do it with pliers and a screwdriver but cable ties are easier. Seeing as its the inner joint the gaiter won't rub on the tie on the outside, it might rub on the one you've fitted inside though. Car Builder Solutions now sell flat headed cable ties that will work well for this.

[kalkat]

I use cable ties for CV boots and haven't had a problem with them yet. You should make sure they are out of they way though, and sometimes using two or three smaller ties is better than one large one due to the size and 'sticky outness' of the ratchetting bit

Emma

[daemonchild]

You ideally need a special tool to close CV bands tightly. Without it they are a real pain, you can do it with pliers and a screwdriver ...

You can (and I did) but, agreed, it IS a pain, especially when there is CV grease everywhere.

Flat cable ties here (not sure whether these are long enough; they do a longer one too).

Edited by daemonchild, 21 October 2009 - 06:17 AM.

[Pauly]

Dont start me on cv bands, as said you need the speical tool, but I managed to get the one tight on the outer, needed one on there really because a cable tie would of catched on the hub (it was close).

I found out though when a mate brought a heat wraping kit for his exhaust manifold, it came with simular cv bands to hold the wraping in place, but when you pull them they automaticly locked which I thought was clever.

Paul.

[daemonchild]

Dont start me on cv bands, as said you need the speical tool, but I managed to get the one tight on the outer, needed one on there really because a cable tie would of catched on the hub (it was close).

I found out though when a mate brought a heat wraping kit for his exhaust manifold, it came with simular cv bands to hold the wraping in place, but when you pull them they automaticly locked which I thought was clever.

Paul.

Like a metal cable tie sort of? Where where where!

[daemonchild]

Dont start me on cv bands, as said you need the speical tool, but I managed to get the one tight on the outer, needed one on there really because a cable tie would of catched on the hub (it was close).

I found out though when a mate brought a heat wraping kit for his exhaust manifold, it came with simular cv bands to hold the wraping in place, but when you pull them they automaticly locked which I thought was clever.

Paul.

Like a metal cable tie sort of? Where where where!
[Weird double post thang!]

Edited by daemonchild, 21 October 2009 - 08:22 AM.

[GraemeC]

Metal cable ties are readily available, but to be honest I don't rate them that highly.
They work, but are difficult to get really tight as the locking mechanism has a bit of give in it (uses a steel ball in tapered housing).
No doubt there are different manufacturers and you get what you pay for though - the ones I had weren't particularly expensive, especially as they were apparently stainless.

http://www.cbsonline...stie-1138-p.asp

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1008142001r3331

[Dan]

it IS a pain, especially when there is CV grease everywhere.

And then the pliers slip off on the grease and you punch yourself in the hip with them, or in the chest or worse if you are lying under the car doing it.

I found out though when a mate brought a heat wraping kit for his exhaust manifold, it came with simular cv bands to hold the wraping in place, but when you pull them they automaticly locked which I thought was clever.

These are EXACTLY what I have been using for outer CV joints for about 10 years because as said above, the head of a cable tie is too big. They aren't metal cable ties, which I agree are completely useless (they are made from stainless so the ball never grabs tight, they are terrible things). These strips are punched with holes along the length and have seperate clips that you use to join the ends at whatever length you like. These are also stainless but because of the clip they work well and hold very tightly. The pack I buy has a long roll of strip and about 10 clips but there are smaller packs of pre-cut lengths. i don't think any of the packs are the right size though so I buy the bulk pack. I'll see if I can find a link.

Having said that, I am interested in the new flat headed ties from CBS and I might swap to them in the future.

[Dan]

This is the stuff I use, I can't find a link for the bulk pack though.