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#766 Big Sam

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:04 PM

Just read the entire thing over three nights of bed time reading!

Inspiring work. Do like the idea of them skin pins, any where sell them for cheap and in bulk to the average joe? eBay has them but not many.

Do like the gun metal grey roof, always aimed for black with mine but I don't know any more.

I'll have to start reading project paddy now!

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 08:45 PM

Regarding the skin pins for average joe ebay is the best avenue but also you can get cleco pins on ebay as well. Unless you work in the Aviation industry getting them in bulk is very expensive.

The cleco's would be a better bet as they do not melt but they do not have the same clamping force as the skin pins.

Unfortunately the gun metal roof is going to be covered by a full carbon fiber beastie in the very new future.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:23 AM

Tis true Rich, i'm just annoyed that £3k of paint is not good enough and that is what really pees me off. I'm going to paint Paddy myself so at least that way if there is any blame to be apportioned it will be on myself, oh and it won't cost £3k either. Still a lesson learned and also sometimes a friends recommendation is not always good enough.


Aint that the bleedin truth! Had my pool done at a friend's recommendation, now need it re-done as it is worse than before, Mate's rates, indeed! 3K down the drain!

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:30 PM

Double post:)

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:32 PM

Right time to get this show back on the road.As some of you may know i have been a bit short of cash over the last year due to a huge change in lifestyle but i am now back living at home so can begin making progress again.I was going to re start this a little while back but i bought a new daily car so i am re starting this now a bit later than planned :shy:.I have even been trying to stay off the forum as it was annoying i couldn't do anything to Erm :(

Thanks for all the reply's over the last year about how Erm is getting on as i think he was a bit sad just sitting around alone after paddy has gone off to have his make over :mrcool:

Ever since Erm was on the spit we noticed the sunroof hole wasn't centred but at the time i thought it wouldn't be noticeable normally with a sunroof fitted. It was all going to plan until upon inspection of the old sunroof it was knackered and i couldn't find another one.We thought about fitting a new roof but that would involve making a mess of the new paint so we decided to go for a carbon roof.After looking at many roofs i have decided on one from Curly as the joins on some of them would really annoy me so Curlys comes with no joins( he mentioned he now is able to get the carbon cloth in the correct width for mini roofs) and was within budget(£470 from minispeed with 10% froum discount;) ).The only problem is the 4-8 week lead time so it may be a while to it gets fitted.

The plan is to get the gutter resprayed black aswell to match the roof as the original grey would of made the seam of the carbon stand out.

I am a bit gutted to rid of the grey roof as we really liked it but then i also really like carbon fibre and i have alot more planned :D

Quick pic of what it should look like

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:56 PM

great to see progress to erm again really nice mini, carnt wait for more updates

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:29 AM

Good to see project Erm back. Good luck with the roof, the carbon looks very nice indeed.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:21 AM

nice to see you back on track i've been following up on this really looking forward to seeing some progress keep up the great work

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:40 AM

Great mini Scott, a really impressive build!

The only thing is I'm going to disagree with you on is the carbon roof and think you should wait to get around to a sunroof. I contemplated a carbon roof before I got around to the spraying of my mini rebuild and decided against it. The main reason at the time was that I read various reviews that they turned milky over time due to moisture getting trapped in the sealing process (Curley being the main culprit unfortunately). Also at the time Oz from Moss had one put on his (by Curley) and a year or two later his was milky and I actually saw that one and it was very poor to be Frank with you.

Now if you want a sunroof I know Amy (shedonwheels) has one fitted by Autoroofs UK in which to be fair granted it cost a fair bit more than the carbon roof but at the same time it looks superb. I've put a link below to her mini (for the correct post I think);

http://www.theminifo...15#entry1449976

Good luck with whatever option you go down and hopefully see it on the roads soon regardless (and hopefully likewise for mine!)

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:52 PM

Great mini Scott, a really impressive build!

The only thing is I'm going to disagree with you on is the carbon roof and think you should wait to get around to a sunroof. I contemplated a carbon roof before I got around to the spraying of my mini rebuild and decided against it. The main reason at the time was that I read various reviews that they turned milky over time due to moisture getting trapped in the sealing process (Curley being the main culprit unfortunately). Also at the time Oz from Moss had one put on his (by Curley) and a year or two later his was milky and I actually saw that one and it was very poor to be Frank with you.

Now if you want a sunroof I know Amy (shedonwheels) has one fitted by Autoroofs UK in which to be fair granted it cost a fair bit more than the carbon roof but at the same time it looks superb. I've put a link below to her mini (for the correct post I think);

http://www.theminifo...15#entry1449976

Good luck with whatever option you go down and hopefully see it on the roads soon regardless (and hopefully likewise for mine!)

Cheers
Chris


Making the decision took a long time as i had alot of factors to take into account and of course once the old metal roof is off there is no going back.I had a look around at all the different types of small sunroofs and i didn't really like any of them .The full length ones are nice and i wouldn't mind having one but only on certain styles of minis as i dont think it would suit what i am trying to do with Erm.

I read alot into carbon roofs before i purchased and look at nearly everyone who sold one.I have heard carbon wezel does very good carbon roofs but Ben quoted me £1080 so i opted for a curly one instead due to the cost and his roofs having no join marks(Carbon wezels have no joins either i believe by the way).I did read that they can go milky over time due to moisture and sunlight but i think thats a risk i am going to have to take.I am hoping by keeping it garaged the risk will be reduced.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:07 PM

Fair enough but my final comment is then;

I believe Curly (and most other suppliers to be fair) put a layer of fibreglass in their carbon products (or at least used too) so I would check to see if it is a 100% carbon fibre product you are getting (unless you aren't after that to begin with). I do know that carbon weezels is 100% and that may well be why his price is a fair whack out.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

Fair enough but my final comment is then;

I believe Curly (and most other suppliers to be fair) put a layer of fibreglass in their carbon products (or at least used too) so I would check to see if it is a 100% carbon fibre product you are getting (unless you aren't after that to begin with). I do know that carbon weezels is 100% and that may well be why his price is a fair whack out.

Cheers
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Chris,I had read somewhere that fiberglass layers are added to products and did think that was the reason between the price difference(that and the price for carbon cloth that is wide enough to make a one piece roof is damm expensive).For me it was a toss up between quality and cost.I always try to buy the best parts i can afford but paying double for something i wouldn't necessarily notice when there seems to be so much more to buy for the project.

Ideally i would love to have a 100% carbon part but with this project weight isn't one of my biggest concerns so i am just having to compromise. :proud:

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:04 AM

YAY progress glad to see this moving again, gives me something to check up and read in the evenings :)

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:07 AM

Scott - How much of the old roof are you leaving when you're fitting the carbon one? There's a tech guide in one of the latest mag's about fitting a new roof, might be worth a look ;-)

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:54 PM


Scott - How much of the old roof are you leaving when you're fitting the carbon one? There's a tech guide in one of the latest mag's about fitting a new roof, might be worth a look ;-)


By looking at previous builds we will have to leave about a 4" lip all round. However any advice from anybody who has done this before will be gratefully received.




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