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[sonikk4]

Well Erm is not coming home this week as he is still having paint issues. Not by choice i am now going to have to spend 4 days at the bodyshop doing remedial work as well as flating back the paint and numerous other little jobs like masking up etc just to keep costs down.

This is getting really tedious and bloody expensive plus the painters do not know what the hell is reacting as everything that i have put on has been stripped back to bare metal
To say that i am totally hacked off would be an under statement and poor old Scott is wondering what the hell is going on. This is his first foray into the world of painting cars and he is not impressed.

I have asked them to put sealer on anything else than may have the potential to react in the hope that this will prevent it from re-occuring.

Watch this space

[Artful Dodger]

:/ thats bad news man...

i hope it all works out, the rest of your resto has

[misfit]

well good luck with the paint job mate try some barrier paint under coat if you had any sprays near by ie cilicone based ones that will do it where i used to work the cleaning by on the other side of the yard recked a focus respray and many others on and off over a week didnt no what it was untill autosmart popped in and solved it lol good luck tho and watching the other build to

[sonikk4]

Well Erm is in the pink literally


Its a guide coat so today i spent the best part of eight hours along with the body shop fitter Ray flatting it back




Its mostly done now apart from some small sections and whatever Scott did not finish in the engine bay.We are not sure whether there is sufficient funds left in the kitty to get the boot area and inside the car painted due to the previous paint reaction nightmare but we shall see. If not then i will have to break out my spray gun and do it myself.

Tomorrow we will go over the car retouching any areas of bare metal and some minor stopper work then its just a case of when it can go back in the spray booth.

[hughJ]

Great Neil - your a patient and persevering man. Looking forward to seeing the final result.

Hugh

[sonikk4]

Great Neil - your a patient and persevering man. Looking forward to seeing the final result.

Hugh

Patient i think not Hugh, i really have had a skin full of Erm at the moment and we had hoped he would be Red now but that's resto's for you. Next time i do anything like this the car will be chemically dipped or soda blasted plus i will not be putting any form of top coat on that may come into contact with fresh paint or be painted over.

[rich2]

Looking good! Keep going!

[analogue_radio]

Pink is so flattering, suits you

[mini 4o]

please stop now, ask the paint rep to pop in and take samples before add any more paint, using a sealer is ok, but is no guarantee that primers will not bleed though.in years/months to come

john

[MINI-TURBO]

looks realy good, can't wait to see it painted

[sonikk4]

please stop now, ask the paint rep to pop in and take samples before add any more paint, using a sealer is ok, but is no guarantee that primers will not bleed though.in years/months to come

john

Hi i put this to the bodyshop chap and he said basically it could be anything reacting with the paint, however today whilst flatting back the door steps i found some more reaction.

Cue some 180 grit wet and dry and lots of elbow grease i'm pretty sure i have found the culprit. Its' bloody Halfords yellow filler primer. I must have missed some areas due to whatever reasons and after having had etch, primer, filler primer sprayed on them with no problems when i started to flat the primer filler back i noticed what looked like cobwebs.

Anyway one door step rubbed down to bare metal we have got to decide whether to remove the filler as well but the other door step the painter feels we may be able to get away without having to strip it back. He's got an idea that may over come this issue so we shall see tomorrow.

Other than that i have one quarter panel, half the rear panel and the roof to flat back then it's top coat time. If this reacts i'm going to buy a gallon of petrol and set fire to the bloody thing.

[grahama]

Yellow filler primer, just like I just used !!! Will avoid from now on, good luck for tomorrow.

Graham

[Edmonds87]

Sorry to hear about all the paint probs you've been having with the project. I've read through from the begining and there's some great work been done. Your welding and fab work is superb. Really inspiring. I'm due to start the long rebuild of mine hopefully this year if the funds will allow it. It's been far too long off the road and I'm getting withdrawal symptoms!
Anyway good luck to you both on the rest of the build. Hope all stays on track from now on!

Chris

[sonikk4]

Yellow filler primer, just like I just used !!! Will avoid from now on, good luck for tomorrow.

Graham

Cheers Graham, Upol do a high build filler primer which according to Ray is what a lot of body shops use for small areas so maybe that's the way to go. Available from people like Kett's auto paints etc.

Needless to say that's what i will be using from now on. I'm just wondering if all of the paints/primers at Halfords are acrylic based?? this might be the reason. Maybe somebody like Panelbeaterpeter might be able to shed some light on this.

Now consoling myself with several ice cold Cobra's to help with the frustration.

[sonikk4]

Mmm so close so far, we thought the car would be ready by end of play today but still some minor issues to sort. I found a little spot of reaction and this time it was not caused by yellow filler primer but by fresh filler on bare metal. so what gives???

However that was sorted out and the car has received a final coat of high build primer on all of the joins, rear quarters etc. Some stone chip was applied to the front valance and its reacted but we believe that will be a quick fix tomorrow.

I think i have walked a mile in the paint booth checking for any other little faults flaws etc and hopefully i have covered them all. With a bit of luck the first coat of red will show up any minor faults that can be quickly sorted.

All i have got to do now is try and work out a plan to get the painter to spray inside the car and boot without blowing anymore of the budget. If not i will be busy in my garage trying to do it. Not the best case scenario but needs must. We shall see.