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[ROBBIE 1]

Yeah i see what you mean, have you got a mini and BBS rs wheels to try out sizes etc?

Also, a fibgerglass arch here, shows they can be massive. Would you want it fully metal?

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the bbs rs wheel i gat in mind is 7.5 by 15 with a e25 offset ! there hard to come by !! again thou that z car fingy fanks for the pic by the way ! the wheels are level with the outside of the car ????? the arch is coming out level ????? and after all that ! theres a superlite on it ????? and a tyre that looks like a doughnut ! ! ! granted thats for racing ! ! ! etc but there must be a way ! ! ! the arch on a mini and what surrounds it is only sheet steel , the cost of cutting it and welding it aint massive ????? see the trouble is yull take it to a welder ,im lucky really i can do it but yull take it to a welder ,tell him what ive gat in mind hell suck in air scratch his head and say 13 inch wheels is yer maximum ??? or because there not "mini " you cant do it ???what the hell !

[mighty mini jack]

As said you'd probably need to modify the radius arms etc which would be quite hard i can imagine.

Personally i'd go about finding a suitable arch off a vw (golf, polo, jetta? etc) and cut the usable section out because you know that a BBS wheel would fit in the gap, then you'd have to figure out how you'd actually use it on the car and if you wanted it spaced out a little before welding it on to compensate for the wheel width. As for the exsisting arch, i guess that could be re-facricated to a bigger diameter.



The arch would most probably need rolling/flaring anyway which makes it a little bit wider.

You'd also have to think about what you'd have to do up front. It would involve quite abit of cutting/reshaping. Martin (roofless) is using 14x7 dynamics with a zeemax kit so you may be able to get a few ideas to how much trimming is needed from him.

Edited by mighty mini jack, 24 August 2009 - 12:16 AM.

[ROBBIE 1]

As said you'd probably need to modify the radius arms etc which would be quite hard i can imagine.

Personally i'd go about finding a suitable arch off a vw (golf, polo, jetta? etc) and cut the usable section out because you know that a BBS wheel would fit in the gap, then you'd have to figure out how you'd actually use it on the car and if you wanted it spaced out a little before welding it on to compensate for the wheel width. As for the exsisting arch, i guess that could be re-facricated to a bigger diameter.



The arch would most probably need rolling/flaring anyway which makes it a little bit wider.

You'd also have to think about what you'd have to do up front. It would involve quite abit of cutting/reshaping. Martin (roofless) is using 14x7 dynamics with a zeemax kit so you may be able to get a few ideas to how much trimming is needed from him.

LISTEN THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YER FEEDBACK IM REALLY GREATFUL ! i want to fit a zeemax body kit i want to fill in all the vent holes thou so its totally smooth ! ! i want to increase the angle of the top of the arches so the angle is greater giving me more height to the arch ! so i can cut away more from the body shell arch to get that wheel up inside ! i want to loose the bottom half of the arch all together ! so the wheel can go inside ! more camber than you can buy of the shelf aswell .
the other idea i had was to buy some superlites have the centres machined out and a bbs rs centre bolted in to create the split rim ! another idea was to have copies made of the bbs rs wheel custom made wheels found a website that would do em for about £1800 .when i was doing my mini about 12 years ago near where i lived in london harlow there was ripspeed and my mate bought some compromotive wheels that was the spitting image of bbs rs wheels all the compromotive wheels ive looked at today do not have a covering centre cap ?? his was if i remember 6 x 13 ??? not sure ??? cost him bout £300 squid i fink !

[roofless]

I'm running 14's with 195 45 14 profile tyres - there are some astoundingly exotic 25 profile tyres, which if fitted to a 15" rim may clear the radius arms.

deep offset could be filled with wheel adapters or even a rear disk conversion like mine on the new project.

beyond that, the back end will have to be completely custom fabricated and tubbed, a beam instead of subframe with custom arms ( not that difficult actually ) and bespoke arches - again pretty simple actually in steel, di-bond or CF. The subframe / beam mounting area may need to be moved forwards.

as I said - its all doo-able and I would estimate a cost of £2500 - £3200 if done in the workshop, plus the cot of wheels and tyres. this would include localised paintwork and custom arches for the rear only - probably in a miglia style from cold-rolled Di-bond.

up front - different bucket of monkeys, thats going to be real problematic on body clearances and steering. but again - all do-able for a price.

at the end of the day though - your geometry is going to be all over the place, and it might handle like a real pig - but it would look cool

look at the watsons minis running 15's

[ROBBIE 1]

I'm running 14's with 195 45 14 profile tyres - there are some astoundingly exotic 25 profile tyres, which if fitted to a 15" rim may clear the radius arms.

deep offset could be filled with wheel adapters or even a rear disk conversion like mine on the new project.

beyond that, the back end will have to be completely custom fabricated and tubbed, a beam instead of subframe with custom arms ( not that difficult actually ) and bespoke arches - again pretty simple actually in steel, di-bond or CF. The subframe / beam mounting area may need to be moved forwards.

as I said - its all doo-able and I would estimate a cost of £2500 - £3200 if done in the workshop, plus the cot of wheels and tyres. this would include localised paintwork and custom arches for the rear only - probably in a miglia style from cold-rolled Di-bond.

up front - different bucket of monkeys, thats going to be real problematic on body clearances and steering. but again - all do-able for a price.

at the end of the day though - your geometry is going to be all over the place, and it might handle like a real pig - but it would look cool

look at the watsons minis running 15's

thankyou thats the answer i was looking for can you give me a persons name and number who would do this for me ??? *melon* the handling as long as it looks sick i dont care ! i want air suspension . THANKS FOR ALL YER HELP GUYS ! !! YOU KNOW ITS SUCH A SHAME there should be more wheel choice !and more body mods for the classic mini to get away from this arches ,superlites trend to give us more choice to be differant ! and the body kits to be less comedy and more suttle, yet killer !!

[mighty mini jack]

Just realised how dodgy my replies where. Sorry about that.

[mike.]

Theres plenty of wheels out there for minis, its just they get very expencive for what they are, hence why you don't see them that much.

Have a look at force racing split rims or image wheels; they'll set you back about £800 without tyres, but if your looking to get the sort of conversion work described above done by a pro; i'm guessing moneys not really an issue for you.

If you've got money to splash and want something different, i'd stick with some more suitable sized wheels (i.e 13" or so) they can still be as unusual as you like, and spend the money on a custom bodykit - Like you say, one thats less comedy and more subtle, yet killer.

A mini on 15s with airbags, huge camber and massivley flared arches to cover them, will be anything but subtle and the only thing getting killed will be the ride and handling.

[rustandoil]

Sounds like a job for Bernie and Leepu

[Geehawk]

If you take a look here http://www.16vminicl...s.php?album=568
You can see what it took this chap to fit 16s to his car (Vtec conversion) with a Zeemax style kit.

[tomgale]

this body kit is quite subtle, you could probably blend it in witrh bigger arches:
 kitted_mini.jpg   63.13K   32 downloads

also i think there are more intresting wheel choices for 10" rims (ive got some 10x5j weller 4 spokes) bloke called asphalt on here has a wheel list i belive.

edit: http://www.mini-mayf...net/felgen.html there is the link

Edited by tomgale, 24 August 2009 - 08:38 AM.

[Asphalt]

this body kit is quite subtle, you could probably blend it in witrh bigger arches:
 kitted_mini.jpg   63.13K   32 downloads

also i think there are more intresting wheel choices for 10" rims (ive got some 10x5j weller 4 spokes) bloke called asphalt on here has a wheel list i belive.

edit: http://www.mini-mayf...net/felgen.html there is the link

Oh, wow! Thats the very first bodykit I like! Got any more infos on that!??

Edited by Asphalt, 24 August 2009 - 08:44 AM.

[mini_kel]

If you want to run those types of wheels then VW`s run the same pcd as minis may be easier and cheaper to get hold of. My friend fitted my old 7x13 wellers to his golf.

[Geehawk]

If you want to run those types of wheels then VW`s run the same pcd as minis may be easier and cheaper to get hold of. My friend fitted my old 7x13 wellers to his golf.

VW and Mini do NOT share the same PCD. They might fit but they are not the same.

[GraemeC]

Are you thinking of Compomotive alloys like these (which are for sale ):


These are Mini fitment 6x13s

Edited by GraemeC, 24 August 2009 - 09:19 AM.

[Jimmy Hat]

If you take a look here http://www.16vminicl...s.php?album=568
You can see what it took this chap to fit 16s to his car (Vtec conversion) with a Zeemax style kit.

That just looks stupid... Especially with the deseamed roof!!

Each to their own I guess