247 replies to this topic

[Jake Blues]

Now i dont claim to be no legal expert, but im pretty sure that opinion is not illegal

Just picking this quote as one from many and not intended to be a jibe at joewb.....
I am of the opinion, as I've posted before, that whilst the right to have an opinion is fundamental, the right to express that opinion everywhere and anywhere is not if the expression of that opinion defames, libels, slanders or is derogatory, racist, sexist or indeed bigoted.
With rights comes responsibilty surely?

[Ethel]

You can have any opinion you like but you have to be careful not to express it as fact unless it actually is - that's defamation. The law also prohibits you from inciting others through comments that are racist or discriminate in certain other ways.

[mini7boy]

Regardless of the actual legal aspects of this whole issue, why can't people be sensible and realize
that nothing is worth losing the forum over. Even if the lawyers do not prevail in this matter, who is
going to pay the legal expenses to defend the forum?

The point has been made. There's absolutely no need for latecomers to this thread to post any further details
that don't really serve to alert prospective customers. The word is OUT. There's no need to beat a dead horse.
Anyone who has been watching this forum knows by now that not all vendors do quality work and perform said
work within a reasonable timeframe.

Word of mouth is a perfectly good substitute for postings on this forum regarding vendor performance.

By now the word has gotten around pretty well and no further postings are necessary.

Anyone contemplating doing business with any given vendor should always ask around to get several
opinions regarding that vendor. Don't simply rely upon one opinion, but get a variety of them. That way,
it's unlikely that an unpopular vendor will escape notice and that people will continue to patronize such
a vendor.

I would suggest that the forum administrators prohibit any further mentions of this vendor and I would ask
fellow forum members to refrain from posting anything regarding this vendor.

[Surfbluegarage]

Right well ill put my 2 cents in me thinks ive used morspeed before and on many occasions for many years now and yes ive had to wait for things in the past but at the end of the day what i got back from simon was absolute quilty stuff.. ive had a head from his that is beyond my expectations for the little money i paid for it. Yes he does need to get orders out the door in order thay came in but sometimes thats the beauty of morspeed.. if you want something done in a hurry and u have something with you... how many times will he drop what hes doing and help YOU out... and get something done for you there and then..? for me.. everytime....
ill still keep gettin stuff done there but like i said thats my opinion and as far as opinions go everyone should have one and have there say so all that my dear Watson is elementary solicitor *melon* is *man danglies* if you ask me!
Freedom to the minis!! Wahoo!

[roofless]

Amen

[Smartshark]

Interesting that Moorspeed are still trading, must be the new owners as I have an Email from Simon saying he has sold the company. Which I am happy to forward on to anyone.
But maybe his email had something to do with the £250 he still owes me or just as we were putting the engine in the car we checked the "competition" clutch I paid for and found a standard clutch plate installed.

[Darkscamp]

Interesting that Moorspeed are still trading, must be the new owners as I have an Email from Simon saying he has sold the company. Which I am happy to forward on to anyone.
But maybe his email had something to do with the £250 he still owes me or just as we were putting the engine in the car we checked the "competition" clutch I paid for and found a standard clutch plate installed.

strange that as i regularly talk to simon and next week i should be going down there to get my k-series head skimmed from my mgzr, and my mg metro head skimmed and brass plug replaced.

to be honest i've never had an issue with any work there, and who else will replace your cam bearings at 5.20pm on the same day you realise they are shot as your putting the engine back together. he also did me a deal on a phase 3 trackday cam as on inspection my cam was damaged which was destroying the cam bearings.

i understand his reputation was tarnished but when are all of you going to let him try and rebuild it, instead of constantly attacking him.

please dont turn this into another 'TMF members jumping on the bandwagon against Morspeed' thread, there getting a bit repetative and boring now.

[Smartshark]

It is not as though my dealings are years ago, his last mail to me saying he had sold the company was 2 or 3 weeks ago and he admitted he owed me the money the middle August 2009 and would refund it immediately.

Cam bearings that is good, when we inspected the ones he fitted closely one was heavily marked.

I am more than willing to let him rebuild his reputation when he gives me the money he admits he owes me (email I am willing to forward) and he buys the standard clutch plate back for the price of the one I paid for I would be more than willing to say I was just unlucky.

When you speak to him ( I assume you have his mobile or home number) please remind him of the money he owes me. I will find his reply and post it on here where he says he has sold the company if he likes.

This was not personnel to start with as I just put it down to my bad choice of supplier but when I am repeatedly misled (some would lied to) in email replies and to my face I start to take it personally.

Edited by Smartshark, 04 October 2009 - 06:10 PM.

[Prawn]

bit fo a repost, but relavent to this thread, as I thought I'd let people know we can now say what the hell we like about Morson. his solicitor no longer acts on his behalf, and he claims to be unemployed!

I don't see how it's possible that he's sold the business, as Simon was a sole trader, and Morspeed was not a LTD company!

Anyway, here's what happened today:


It would appear, that despite taking it's sweet time, the legal system actually works!

Just on the way home from our hearing, Lewis vs. Morson.

The hearing lasted barely more than 10 minutes amazingly.

Morson turned up dressed in Jeans, and a white tracksuit coat and trainers, with his father, who was similarly dressed. (surely you wear a suit to court?)

Simon had failed to submit statements to the court to back up his defense, and as such he was told his evidence was worthless. He lied claiming to have only recieved the instructions 2 weeks ago, despite sending a letter to the independant engineer regarding the proceedings around 4 weeks ago.

he was however, given the chance to question us on our statements, each detailling our involvment in the case, my own account of how I knew Oli, and how the changes Oli made to the original engine spec were decided upon between us, as well as the two engineers reports from Mintec Mini Spares, and Mike Booth, and independant expert agreed by both parties to inspet the engine. Needless to say, the report written was VERY critical of the engine, stating that it could not be deemed dangerous, as there was no chance it would ever even start!

Surprisingly, Morson had no questions at all for any of us, accepting what we said.

His sole claim seemed to be on the fact that he had no contract with Carol, claiming that as the engine was paid for (in part) by Oli's dad, that the contract was with him.

Clearly he had been terribly misinformed, as the contract he entered into was between Oli Lewis and himself, 3rd party involvement in payment has no effect on those entering into the contract. The judge told him politely that Carol was entirely in the right to sue for the refund of the engine, acting on Oli's behalf.

So, with all that aside, both parties were asked if they had anything else to add, we were fairly happy with how things were going, so had nothing more to add. Morson obviously realised the game was up, so kept quiet.

The judge then went on to order Morson to repay the £4900 for the engine in full, along with all court costs incurred by Carol within 14 days.

Morson accepted this, although when asked if he was able to pay in the allotted time, he claimed he was unable to, due to being unemployed!


So, doubtless to say, 14 days will pass, and we will start proceedings to have the payment inforced, through whatever legal means necessary

All in all, happy days I'd say! It's taken almost 2 years since Oli died to get to this stage, but finally things are in our favour.


The world is clearly better off without Morspeed anyway. the whole company was a bad mark on what is otherwise a really awesome little Mini community we have. it's just such a shame he mananged to con so many people over the past few years.


I'll keep everyone updated with how things go over the next few weeks!

[MK1]

Are you allowed to be telling us this?

Edited by MK1, 03 November 2009 - 04:46 PM.

[yorkshirechris]

Are you allowed to be telling us this?

^ If he isn't, then you aren't really helping by quoting the whole of his post!!

AFAIK the case is over so nothing Prawn posts on here will affect any outcome of any case/influence the jury if there was one.

Glad to hear it's nearly sorted for you. I remember reading the tragic story of Oli just after it happened, I'm surprised to hear it was almost two years ago already.

Edited by yorkshirechris, 03 November 2009 - 04:46 PM.

[MK1]

Are you allowed to be telling us this?

^ If he isn't, then you aren't really helping by quoting the whole of his post!!

AFAIK the case is over so nothing Prawn posts on here will affect any outcome of any case/influence the jury if there was one.

Glad to hear it's nearly sorted for you. I remember reading the tragic story of Oli just after it happened, I'm surprised to hear it was almost two years ago already.

Fair enough I'll take my quote away. I'd be supprised if this should be put on a public forum as its an ongoing case? Anyway...hope it works out for the people involved.

[Prawn]

I can now say whatever I want to say! the county court judgement has been made against Simon Morson, and now finally after all the arguing and insults that have gone on over the past 18 months, I can finally say that we have been 100% in the right the entire time. Of course, we've always said this to be the case, but it's up to the courts to decide who is in the right from a legal point of view.

I think the fast that the hearing lasted such a short time simply goes to prove just how clear cut the case was!

[Prawn]

mk1, thanks for your concern mate, I understand totally.

That is exactly the reason things have been so quiet in this thread lately, a few months back (when Morson was sending hoax messages claiming to be from his solicitor threatening legal action against both the forum, and certain members) we were advised not to put anything more on the forum until after the case.

THe case has now been heard, and we won, so basicly, it's no longer on going. the judgement has been made, so all that remains is for Morson to pay what he owes, and that will be the end of the matter, and we can get on and finish Oli's car in tribute to him, as we had planned to do two years ago!

[MK1]

I can now say whatever I want to say! the county court judgement has been made against Simon Morson, and now finally after all the arguing and insults that have gone on over the past 18 months, I can finally say that we have been 100% in the right the entire time. Of course, we've always said this to be the case, but it's up to the courts to decide who is in the right from a legal point of view.

I think the fast that the hearing lasted such a short time simply goes to prove just how clear cut the case was!

It was pretty clear what was going to happen mate. Glad you got the good news anyway.