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#1 mab01uk

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 10:45 PM

Out of interest does anyone have more recent figures for the number of classic Minis left on British roads, than those listed below from 2002?

Source: SMMT (The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders)
A total of 117,504 Mini Saloons and Estates, and 1,771 Vans and Pick-ups, were recorded by the DVLC as being on the road in Great Britain - 1st August 2002.

http://www.smmt.co.u...gistrations.cfm

Also does anyone have the Annual UK Mini sales figures for each year from 1994 up to the last year 2000?
My Chris Rees "Complete Mini" book only lists up to 1993 @ 6,326 Minis sold that year..........in the back page listings.

Edited by mab01uk, 14 April 2009 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2009 - 08:02 AM

I think a book I have at home has the numbers on mini's sold, I'll check when I get home.
Only 2% of minis made left on the road seems a bit low, suppose it isn't taking into account exports, sorns, the 3 million projects on this forum etc?

#3 mab01uk

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:01 PM

Thanks :shifty:

1,581,887 Minis sold in UK 1959-2000 according to this:-

http://www.orange.co...imecarsorangeuk

In 2002 there were 117,504 Mini Saloons and Estates, and 1,771 Vans and Pick-ups left on UK roads = 119,275 total

Approx. 7.5% of the 1,581,887 were left in the UK in 2002, so around 92.5% had been scrapped/written off or exported..........would be interesting to compare the current figures 7 years on?

Edited by mab01uk, 15 April 2009 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:12 PM

Imagine if they ALL turn up for IMM 2009! Or even 1/4 of them, that'll be 30000 minis!!

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 09:42 PM

unfortunately I was thinking of the same book, it's strange how it doesn't go past 1993 for cars sold

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 09:49 PM

Thanks :)

1,581,887 Minis sold in UK 1959-2000 according to this:-

http://www.orange.co...imecarsorangeuk

In 2002 there were 117,504 Mini Saloons and Estates, and 1,771 Vans and Pick-ups left on UK roads = 119,275 total

Approx. 7.5% of the 1,581,887 were left in the UK in 2002, so around 92.5% had been scrapped/written off or exported..........would be interesting to compare the current figures 7 years on?



When I last checked with the SMMT it was around the 95,000 mark (can't remember exactly). Save the Minis!

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 10:52 PM

Dear Sir / Madam,

As you may be aware 2009 is the 50th Anniversary of the Mini.

I, and I’m sure many other of the little car’s enthusiasts would be interested to know how many are still gracing the roads of Great Britain with their presence, or are sat in garages, devouring their owners disposable income, being lovingly restored.

I would appreciate if you are able to provide information about the number of Minis that currently have valid vehicle excise licences, or have declared a SORN. I will publish any information that you provide on The Mini Forum, an Internet user group with over ten thousand members worldwide where it will be freely available to any interested parties.

I would be grateful if you can reply in as much detail as possible, ideally listing the quantities for both Taxed and SORN’ed cars by year of registration and individual model.

The particular models, from over the 41years of production are:

1959 – 1961 Austin Se7en
1959 – 1967 Morris Mini-Minor
1960 – 1961 Austin Se7en Countryman and Austin Se7en Van
1960 – 1967 Morris Mini-Traveller Mk1
1960 – 1969 Morris Minivan
1961 Austin Se7en Pick-Up
1961-1962 Austin Super Se7en
1961 – 1967 Austin Se7en Cooper, Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 997cc
1961 – 1969 Austin Mini Pick-up and Morris Mini Pick-up
1961-1969 Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet.
1962-1967 Austin Mini: Standard, Deluxe, Super, Super Deluxe.
1962 – 1967 Austin Mini Countryman
1963 – 1964 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 'S' 1,071cc
1964 – 1967 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 998cc
1964 – 1965 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 'S' 970cc
1964 – 1967 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 'S' 1275
1964 – 1968 Austin and Morris Mini Moke
1967 – 1969 Austin Mini Mk2 and Morris Mini Mk2 - Standard, Superdeluxe
1967 – 1969 Austin Mini Countryman Mk2 and Morris Mini-Traveller Mk2
1967 – 1969 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper Mk2
1967 – 1970 Austin and Morris Mini-Cooper 'S' Mk2
1969 – 1979 Mini 850
1969 – 1980 Mini Clubman and Mini Clubman Estate
1969 – 1980 Mini 1275 GT
1969 – 1982 Mini 1000 Super Deluxe, Super, HL
1969 – 1983 Mini Van
1969 – 1983 Mini Pickup
1970 – 1971 Mini Cooper 'S' Mk3
1976 Mini Limited Edition 1000
1979 Mini 1100 Special
1979 – 1980 Mini 850 City and Mini 850 Super De Luxe
1980 – 1992 Mini City, City E
1982 – 1992 Mini Mayfair
1983 Mini Sprite
1984 Mini 25
1985 Mini Ritz
1986 Mini Chelsea and Mini Piccadilly
1987 Mini Park Lane and Mini Advantage
1988 Mini Red Hot and Mini Jet Black
1988 Mini Designer
1989 Mini Racing, Mini Flame, Mini Rose and Mini Sky
1989 Mini Thirty
1990 – 1996 Rover Mini Cooper, Carb and SPI
1990 Mini Racing Green, Mini Flame Red, Mini Studio 2 and Mini Check Mate
1991 - 1996 Mini Cabriolet
1991 Mini Neon
1992 Mini British Open Classic
1992 Mini Italian Job,
1992 - 1996 Mini Sprite and Mini Mayfair 1,275cc
1993 Mini Rio and Mini Tahiti
1994 Mini-Cooper Monte Carlo
1994 Mini 35
1994 - 1996 Cooper Grand Prix
1995 Mini Sidewalk and Cooper S
1996 Mini Equinox
1996 Mini Cooper 35
1996 – 2000 Mini MPI
1996 – 2000 Mini Cooper MPI
1997 Mini Hot Rod and Mini Limo
1998 Rover Mini Paul Smith
1998 Mini Cooper Sports
1999 Mini Cooper S Touring
1999 Mini Cooper S Sport 5
1999 Mini Cooper S Works
1999 Rover Mini 40
1999 John Cooper LE and Cooper Sport 500 LE


Please add any I've missed to the list, I could add some info on foreign models that might have been imported for example.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 11:00 PM

Excellent Ethel! :) we were wondering how many 1275GT's are left, I hope they reply back with what we want to know :P

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:42 AM

Great idea Ethel :) ..........I think the more details we have on the Minis of all types still around and how fast they are disappearing can only help more to be saved. Many of the lower value uneconomic to repair 1980's and 90's Minis are still going to scrap/breaking for spares after failing MOT's or sustaining light accident damage making them insurance write-offs (including many late MPI Sportpacks).

Practical Classics magazine have been publishing the DVLA/SMMT figures for several classics cars recently and it is surprising how few remain of what were once very common cars............PC told me the Mini figures are quite detailed due to the many models and variants but have not published any info yet. I would guess accuracy of the Mini Special Edition numbers will depend on how many Dealers entered the original Registration details accurately?

Edited by mab01uk, 16 April 2009 - 07:45 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2009 - 08:05 AM

Thanks :)

1,581,887 Minis sold in UK 1959-2000 according to this:-

http://www.orange.co...imecarsorangeuk

In 2002 there were 117,504 Mini Saloons and Estates, and 1,771 Vans and Pick-ups left on UK roads = 119,275 total

Approx. 7.5% of the 1,581,887 were left in the UK in 2002, so around 92.5% had been scrapped/written off or exported..........would be interesting to compare the current figures 7 years on?



When I last checked with the SMMT it was around the 95,000 mark (can't remember exactly). Save the Minis!

When did you last check? To lose 25k Minis in 6 years is quite shocking. At that rate they'll be gone by 2015!! :P

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 03:55 PM

Thanks ;)

1,581,887 Minis sold in UK 1959-2000 according to this:-

http://www.orange.co...imecarsorangeuk

In 2002 there were 117,504 Mini Saloons and Estates, and 1,771 Vans and Pick-ups left on UK roads = 119,275 total

Approx. 7.5% of the 1,581,887 were left in the UK in 2002, so around 92.5% had been scrapped/written off or exported..........would be interesting to compare the current figures 7 years on?



When I last checked with the SMMT it was around the 95,000 mark (can't remember exactly). Save the Minis!

When did you last check? To lose 25k Minis in 6 years is quite shocking. At that rate they'll be gone by 2015!! :)


It depends on when they were reported lost - maybe a glut were reported scrapped when the new electronic taxing systems came in?
But had actually be scrapped years before just not 'on paper'...?

But yeah, that's a scary stat.

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 04:40 PM

I'm sure I'm not alone in being the keeper of several virtual Minis: ones that got turned in to bean cans long before SORN existed but were never notified to Swansea and still appear on their database. Your average scrapyard still has no interest in paperwork and will often tell you to just fill in the V5 stating you scrapped a car yourself. Perhaps DVLA have changed how they account for those cars, no one will ever know how many are languishing in dusty garages or rotting away in the corner of a field.

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 05:14 PM

what would a Z car be registered under? also minis being taken of the road to be raced! and the older ones are exported each year! but i just feel honoured now to be one of those few people to have a mini! also there are so many minis being "broke" for spairs now! i think the number will drop, and then even out a bit, as the projects are finished, and unofrtunatly the odd one or two that get written off/stolen and burnt out!

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:19 PM

full list of UK mini production from the updated version of the chris rees book ;)

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:13 PM

full list of UK mini production from the updated version of the chris rees book >_<


Thanks Anorak for updated worldwide production figures :thumbsup:, does the updated version of the book still also include a list of UK only Mini sales from 1994 to 2000?
(I need these to enable Practical Classics to calculate more accurate percentage figures of UK Minis surviving, as the mag seems to have paid for some access to the SMMT / DVLA database for this kind of research for articles.)




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