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[Phaeton]

Anyone know if it's possible to by wobbly nuts suitable for the Mini thread which I think is 3/8"UNF. Somebody i know wants to fit some Toyota wheels who's PCD id 100mm.

Alan...

[wolfie]

bodge

hope your mate dont hurt anyone when he/she crashes

[Phaeton]

bodge

hope your mate dont hurt anyone when he/she crashes

Explain the wisdom in that oh great one.

Can I just add if you read at the top of the forum it says

Forum Rules Don't give out incorrect advice - if you don't know the answer, don't post!

Please take note in future

Alan...

Edited by Phaeton, 07 March 2009 - 06:09 PM.

[Juju]

What are wobbly nuts, Alan? (apart from the delicious mental image I have......nom...nom...nom)

[Bungle]

a bodge to get over different wheel stud patterns if they are close

[Phaeton]

What are wobbly nuts, Alan? (apart from the delicious mental image I have......nom...nom...nom)

Not sure I can tell you & be responsible for the corruption of a sweet & innocent young girl like yourself.

Alan...

[Sprocket]

bodge

hope your mate dont hurt anyone when he/she crashes

Explain the wisdom in that oh great one.

Can I just add if you read at the top of the forum it says

Forum Rules Don't give out incorrect advice - if you don't know the answer, don't post!

Please take note in future

Alan...

Wolfie is right! If you think they are perfectly fine to use then you do not fully understand the significance, and you yorself should heed the advice that you BOLDLY give! Wolfie may have made a better response and told you why they are a bodge, but the fact is, they are.

Wobble nuts will not work on a Mini as the wheel studs themselves are used to center the wheel on the hub. There is no spiggot that cebters the wheel. usung wobble nuts on such a hub will not center the wheel, and if used would cause extreme virbration that would probably cause the wheel studs to fail.

Besides that the Toyota wheels will not have the correct offsets to work with the Mini suspension and steering geometry.

[Phaeton]

Thank you for a more specific reply I will heed your warnings, however bare these factors in mind, the difference in the PCD is 1.6mm across the two wheel studs, therefore assuming the that the wheel is perfectly true & the hub has been perfectly machined then we are only talking about 0.8mm per stud. Also as these are not being fitted to a Mini then the offset has no relevance.

Which still leaves the question can they be purchased.

Alan...

[Juju]

Well I reckon it sounds pretty frakking dangerous. Don't let them do it.

[Saxo-Fiesta-Mini]

no they dont as for nuts to be wobble the studs would be cross threaded and no one in the right mind that makes / sells wheel components would every have the legal permission to make such as if they failed ud sue there ass people wouldnt go out of there way to get bonned lol

easier options would be get a die grinder and expend the holes in the wheel then the nuts will hold the wheel in place job done

most places would tell u not to bother

[Sprocket]

Thank you for a more specific reply I will heed your warnings, however bare these factors in mind, the difference in the PCD is 1.6mm across the two wheel studs, therefore assuming the that the wheel is perfectly true & the hub has been perfectly machined then we are only talking about 0.8mm per stud. Also as these are not being fitted to a Mini then the offset has no relevance.

Which still leaves the question can they be purchased.

Alan...

Wobble nuts do not work with hubs that do not have a spigot location !!! and the Mini has no spigot location !!!!!!

It doesnt matter if its not a mini. If you are using the mini suspension, the geometry will still be all wrong if you have no sympathy to the offsets kingpin inclination and scrub radius

[Dan]

no they dont as for nuts to be wobble the studs would be cross threaded and no one in the right mind that makes / sells wheel components

Actually several companies do make and sell wobble nuts and woble screws, they aren't cross threaded but they have a loose washer with the right base shape to match the bore in the wheel that can move about on the screw or nut shank a couple of mm. As Sprocket says on a car without a spigot for the wheel they are terribly dangerous because the studs will be loaded all wrong and will be weakened and far more likely to break as a result. Even on a wheel with a spigot they still sound like a terrible idea to me because they studs or screws will never be properly and evenly loaded. Not as terrible as the idea of opening up the bores in the wheel with a die grinder to accomodate the PCD difference though! That is unbelieveably dangerous, there would never be any chance of getting the wheel centered. The only truly safe properly engineered way to do this that isn't a bodge is to have either the wheel or the drive flange and disc re-machined to the PCD and bolt pattern you are after.

[Guess-Works.com]

If the offset of the wheel is +ve enough, you could get some 'convertor' spacers made which attach to the std hub with nuts, and have the correct PCD machined into them for wheel studs and the wheel...

It'll be a fair lump of steel but is a lot safer than the above two options...

[wolfie]

bodge

hope your mate dont hurt anyone when he/she crashes

Explain the wisdom in that oh great one.

Can I just add if you read at the top of the forum it says

Forum Rules Don't give out incorrect advice - if you don't know the answer, don't post!

Please take note in future

Alan...

ok get one thing straight i told you it was a bodge and thats not incorrect advice so get your facts in order

Second wobble bolts are a bodge on a car with spigot rings, without like in the minis case its a death trap so i hate to think what other brain dead bodges are happening on this car, you wanted to know where to buy these bolts so clearly you were planning to fit rather than asking advice on if it was safe to fit as you and your "mate" dont have a clue i made my statement brief and to the point.

if you want i can show you a nice picture from our yard of a bodged car, the body parts can still be seen in it

[wolfie]

no they dont as for nuts to be wobble the studs would be cross threaded and no one in the right mind that makes / sells wheel components would every have the legal permission to make such as if they failed ud sue there ass people wouldnt go out of there way to get bonned lol

easier options would be get a die grinder and expend the holes in the wheel then the nuts will hold the wheel in place job done

most places would tell u not to bother

why on earth do you post such drivel and bad advice, has pheaton upset you to a point you want to kill him ?