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#196 Mini-Mad-Craig

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:08 PM

18 cars. all the same mods, the same engine, tyres etc then we see who kicks arse.
ps i cant understand why some people dont like hamlition. You ve never met him in person have ya? Just jealously i thinks again.


Who said they didnt like Hamilton? Nobody, alot of people have said they dont like his driving style but No Comments have been made about him as a person ...

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 12:10 PM

Booooo Lewis Boooooo

Come on Ferrari next season.

At least they won the constructors easily in the end :)


I thought McLaren had won it by a point?
As for Button. The reason he wins so little is he isn't as good, simple as. He's been there long enough and not always in a rubbish car either. As for Hamilton - check out his Top Gear time!

His Cars have always let him down! was you a fan back in 04 when Honda Had there season And Jenson Was Coming 2nd, 3rd, always top ten finishes, because he had a DECENT car.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 01:28 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 01:33 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!


am hoping that..... i would like to see more than two teams battling for both the drivers champ and constructors....

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:13 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!


am hoping that..... i would like to see more than two teams battling for both the drivers champ and constructors....




Its True They Have Brand New Aero Package Coming for 2009 Along With a pretty Much Brand new Chassis.
I Dont Reckon They'l be competitve enough to compete for the constructors but they are gonna be pretty quick, that'l shut everybody up who says Jenson is a slow driver and doesnt have what it takes :)

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:15 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!


am hoping that..... i would like to see more than two teams battling for both the drivers champ and constructors....




Its True They Have Brand New Aero Package Coming for 2009 Along With a pretty Much Brand new Chassis.
I Dont Reckon They'l be competitve enough to compete for the constructors but they are gonna be pretty quick, that'l shut everybody up who says Jenson is a slow driver and doesnt have what it takes :)


it may shut them up.... and it may not.

as is the case in F1 every car is different... look at vetel, he is running the same engine as massa but never gets that close to a podium finish, and thats all down to aero and chasis design.....

oh and the stewards dont bum the team like they do ferrari..

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:19 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!


am hoping that..... i would like to see more than two teams battling for both the drivers champ and constructors....




Its True They Have Brand New Aero Package Coming for 2009 Along With a pretty Much Brand new Chassis.
I Dont Reckon They'l be competitve enough to compete for the constructors but they are gonna be pretty quick, that'l shut everybody up who says Jenson is a slow driver and doesnt have what it takes :)


it may shut them up.... and it may not.

as is the case in F1 every car is different... look at vetel, he is running the same engine as massa but never gets that close to a podium finish, and thats all down to aero and chasis design.....

oh and the stewards dont bum the team like they do ferrari..


its not the same engine, its the RBR version, its not as quick

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:22 PM

its the same base engine isnt it? just tuned differently so in theory it could be as quick

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:23 PM

i think alot of people are missing the fact with button and honda, Honda have spent NO money on developing the 08 Car, they have saved all the money and put it into the developement of next years car, so lets just wait and see hey, then if the car comes out fighting we will know if button is a good enough driver.


I have had work experience with Honda, then BAR, and have had a tour of their new wind tunnel facilities, those facilites together with Ross Brawn, expect some half decent results next year!


am hoping that..... i would like to see more than two teams battling for both the drivers champ and constructors....




Its True They Have Brand New Aero Package Coming for 2009 Along With a pretty Much Brand new Chassis.
I Dont Reckon They'l be competitve enough to compete for the constructors but they are gonna be pretty quick, that'l shut everybody up who says Jenson is a slow driver and doesnt have what it takes :)


it may shut them up.... and it may not.

as is the case in F1 every car is different... look at vetel, he is running the same engine as massa but never gets that close to a podium finish, and thats all down to aero and chasis design.....

oh and the stewards dont bum the team like they do ferrari..


its not the same engine, its the RBR version, its not as quick


yeah, its a tad different! still a good engine though! do they still have different stewards at every race?

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:39 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:54 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.


Hopefully the changes will make for a good spectators season again!

if anybody wants to see the whole rule book of the new regulations, its on the FIA website, makes for heavy reading though! clicky

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:54 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.


Most of them are just improving what they allready have, Honda Are Re-designing the Whole Car From Scratch, This years car is the same base car as what they've used since BAR left them, which is why they've been slow, Next seasons car will be completely different.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 02:55 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.


Most of them are just improving what they allready have, Honda Are Re-designing the Whole Car From Scratch, This years car is the same base car as what they've used since BAR left them, which is why they've been slow, Next seasons car will be completely different.

its not, trust me! super aguri was the BAR car, honda went backwards in development from that car! and honda owned 50% of BAR, just BAT left after the ban of tobaco sponsership, hence honda taking it completly over

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 03:44 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.


Most of them are just improving what they allready have, Honda Are Re-designing the Whole Car From Scratch, This years car is the same base car as what they've used since BAR left them, which is why they've been slow, Next seasons car will be completely different.

its not, trust me! super aguri was the BAR car, honda went backwards in development from that car! and honda owned 50% of BAR, just BAT left after the ban of tobaco sponsership, hence honda taking it completly over


It Was still the same car, but they got a 'new' Aero Package at the start of 2007 But the car was still the same chassis and engine, ive got the AutoSport Magazine covering the F1 07 season intro here, ill have to find it and have a good read.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 04:54 PM

Considering the amount of changes and regulations coming in next year, pretty much every team will have a new engine, chassis and aero package.


Most of them are just improving what they allready have, Honda Are Re-designing the Whole Car From Scratch, This years car is the same base car as what they've used since BAR left them, which is why they've been slow, Next seasons car will be completely different.

Really? Even with the introduction of the KERS system and the regs clamping down on the aero aides they are allowed to use.




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