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#856 gav

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

How come you got black flagged?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

How come you got black flagged?


NOISE - the car passed the static and registered 97db's, then according to the clerk of course it registered at 101db's on a drive by, apparently the drive by limits was 92db's. He then went on to tell me that normally if a car is registering so high on a drive by that it would register around the 120db's on a static.

Then I had to try and explain how the supercharger is on bypass when the car is being held at a constant rpm and it gets a whole lot noisier when its under load.

To keep the CoC sweet I offered to stick my extra bike silencer on the wee beastie. It was static tested again (dropped 4db's) then he sent me out for 3 laps, one to warm it up and the next to raz it past then an in lap. So instead of hitting 8800rpm out of the corner I went to 7000rpm (and continued to do that on camp corner for the rest of the day) the CoC registered me at 94db's on the drive by but allowed me to carry on - Good man..... You can see the difference in the two videos, the one with the black flag you can see that I take it higher in the revs up the start finish.

It really is nowhere near as loud as it seems in the videos from inside the car, more than anything you can hear the charger whining like a disgruntled girlfriend/wife.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:03 PM

I just checked the lap recorded lap times of Castle Combe and my time is pathetic, considering the power to weight of the car I should be more like 1:15 - 1:20 (my best so far is 1:31), man I need to get some track driving lessons.........

I am a former world champion karting in the highest division. I see you can push your car much more to the limits... But is that what you want with such a beautifull mini?? It's probably the best Zcars I've ever seen.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:09 AM


I just checked the lap recorded lap times of Castle Combe and my time is pathetic, considering the power to weight of the car I should be more like 1:15 - 1:20 (my best so far is 1:31), man I need to get some track driving lessons.........

I am a former world champion karting in the highest division. I see you can push your car much more to the limits... But is that what you want with such a beautifull mini?? It's probably the best Zcars I've ever seen.
Gratz with you car !
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Thanks for the comments.

I think you're right, in that, had I not poured so much heart and soul into the the project it would be easier to take chances as you wouldn't care so much about the car. The last thing I want to do is have it pulled out of a tyre barrier.

Similarly to get it to faster round a track I am going to need some direction/tuition as you can think you're fast but in fact you're not, well not on a track and there are little gems of knowledge that the instructors have that can gain you a lot of time. Unfortunately it all costs money which seems to be in short supply at the minute, fingers crossed we pull out of this damned recession BS soon so the average Joe can start making a bit more money.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:46 PM



I just checked the lap recorded lap times of Castle Combe and my time is pathetic, considering the power to weight of the car I should be more like 1:15 - 1:20 (my best so far is 1:31), man I need to get some track driving lessons.........

I am a former world champion karting in the highest division. I see you can push your car much more to the limits... But is that what you want with such a beautifull mini?? It's probably the best Zcars I've ever seen.
Gratz with you car !
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Thanks for the comments.

I think you're right, in that, had I not poured so much heart and soul into the the project it would be easier to take chances as you wouldn't care so much about the car. The last thing I want to do is have it pulled out of a tyre barrier.

Similarly to get it to faster round a track I am going to need some direction/tuition as you can think you're fast but in fact you're not, well not on a track and there are little gems of knowledge that the instructors have that can gain you a lot of time. Unfortunately it all costs money which seems to be in short supply at the minute, fingers crossed we pull out of this damned recession BS soon so the average Joe can start making a bit more money.


like the quote about average Joe but, I am sure you know racing drivers can't care about their materials... I think you are doiing just fine wih what you have.. Good luck anyway!
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

Hi Andy see you gone for lower profile it makes a huge difference you will love it, you'll feel a lot more confident in the car, question for you, I'm having all my cooling redesigned and and remade would you be interested in my alloy radiator ?

what price for the radiator? thanks

Edited by minithekid, 15 January 2013 - 03:11 AM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:22 PM


Hi Andy see you gone for lower profile it makes a huge difference you will love it, you'll feel a lot more confident in the car, question for you, I'm having all my cooling redesigned and and remade would you be interested in my alloy radiator ?

what price for the radiator? thanks


if I were you I would send a PM to E11evens as he is the one selling the rad......

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:01 PM



Hi Andy see you gone for lower profile it makes a huge difference you will love it, you'll feel a lot more confident in the car, question for you, I'm having all my cooling redesigned and and remade would you be interested in my alloy radiator ?

what price for the radiator? thanks


if I were you I would send a PM to E11evens as he is the one selling the rad......

i did andy he never got back?
sorry about the hi jacking.

Edited by minithekid, 15 January 2013 - 05:13 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:26 AM

sorry about the hi jacking.


No worries, I have Claudio's email, I have sent him a message for you.

Edited by cptkirk, 16 January 2013 - 07:35 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:11 AM

Emailed him, cheers bud, oh very nice website gonna get some prices cheers for that :-) !!

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:22 PM

Emailed him, cheers bud, oh very nice website gonna get some prices cheers for that :-) !!

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

I just checked the lap recorded lap times of Castle Combe and my time is pathetic, considering the power to weight of the car I should be more like 1:15 - 1:20 (my best so far is 1:31), man I need to get some track driving lessons.........


HI mate, just read this comment, and i think your doing well to get these times, i race formula ford here in a car thats lighter, more aerodynamic, handles better, more experience and a team that knows how to squeeze every last second out of a lap and im only lapping at 1;12 -1;15 i dont think a vtec mini will come close unless you stick a hyabusa init dump it on the floor strip it out and take 10 inches of the roof and weigh 10 stone, you would need something more like chrises race car and having been in it round coombe and in mine theres no comparison, if i could achieve a 115-120 in mine f..k me i would be over the moon bro !!

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

HI mate, just read this comment, and i think your doing well to get these times,


Cheers Claudio, when I watch the video's back I keep seeing where I could have braked later and could have stayed on the gas longer and harder. I have said this before but - the problem is when you've put so much into building the car the last thing you want to do is stick it in the wall which is always a constant niggle in the head when you drive around, well it is for me.

Funny you should say about a busa mini as I have begun the design process for my next mini which is a Busa powered sprint/hillcimb/track car which I am building from scratch (minus the shell), its a long slow process as I have to draw literally everything up in 3D, along with getting my head around the finer points of suspension/drivetrain/driver safety (MSA rules) and that jazz......

Edited for typos...

Edited by cptkirk, 30 January 2013 - 01:41 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:49 AM

Hey Andy

I see you have had an opportunity to thrash the new clutch around a bit.
How would you compare the new clutch to the old regarding drivability and engagement?

I haven't seen many posts on here for a while so I hope you have been working in your man cave. I know you mentioned a while back you changed your pullys to spin the water pump faster for low rmp cooling. Have you considered installing an electric water pump on this setup?

Keep up the good work. You are an inpretation to many on this forum including me.

Stefan

Edited by StefanPieter, 12 March 2013 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

Hey Andy

I see you have had an opportunity to thrash the new clutch around a bit.
How would you compare the new clutch to the old regarding drivability and engagement?

I haven't seen many posts on here for a while so I hope you have been working in your man cave. I know you mentioned a while back you changed your pullys to spin the water pump faster for low rmp cooling. Have you considered installing an electric water pump on this setup?

Keep up the good work. You are an inpretation to many on this forum including me.

Stefan


Hi Stefan

I can report that the new clutch is alot better for regular driving than the old carbon clutch, I cant even say it was nice while it lasted as it was just a pain in the a55 having to keep it warm to make good engagement. The best thing about having a carbon clutch is telling people that you've got one, living with one is quite different.....I can't recommend the new Exedy clutch and flywheel that I have in mine now (can remember the part codes of the top of my head).

Changing the Crank pulley was done primarily to spin the charger faster but a great addition to the mix was the fact that it spins the water pump faster. I wouldn't consider an electric pump at this point as what I have is more than adequate now. Also the blocking off of unnecessary heater matrix pipework was a big help to getting the water flowing properly - for anyone reading wondering, do not use the bypass pipe as supplied by Z's to loop the heater pipes together it creates a pass with little resistance that does not flow to the radiator.

I haven't been doing anything to the car recently due to lack of funds, credit cards need paying off...

Thanks for the kind words, I am glad I built the car and hope I can pass on anything I have learnt to the others in the community/forum...

Edited by cptkirk, 12 March 2013 - 04:45 PM.





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