hi guys, just a quick question
Whats the difference between normal arches and tubed ones i.e. what is tubing them exactly?
from what i understand its to make your car faster at high speeds (airflow related im guessing)
Tubed Arches
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, Feb 21 2010 06:45 PM
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 06:45 PM
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 06:52 PM
it's when you remove the ridge on the back arches so you can run the car lower with out the wheels hitting the arches
probably a bit of a gray area as if doing so modifies the Monocoque and might leave you needing an IVA test
probably a bit of a gray area as if doing so modifies the Monocoque and might leave you needing an IVA test
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 06:54 PM
ah right cheers
think i may have posted this in the wrong section though - oops
think i may have posted this in the wrong section though - oops
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 06:56 PM
lol i think you mean tubbing not tubing, lol
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 06:58 PM
ha yeah, good job im better at fixing minis than i am at spelling
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 07:38 PM
tubbing is a hot rod thing. it's where you cut the whole of the inside of the arch out and weld in a deeper arch to fit wide wheels without them poking out.
just like this. not the best picture just one i found on google
just like this. not the best picture just one i found on google
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:32 AM
Why would you need an IVA?
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:39 AM
you are altering the Monocoque from original specification
it list trimming the archers for bigger wheels as being ok but i would of thought completely cutting them out and fitting them back higher to be a step to far
it list trimming the archers for bigger wheels as being ok but i would of thought completely cutting them out and fitting them back higher to be a step to far
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:43 PM
To be fair, if done to a proper standard and plastic wheel arches put on 1) An MOT tester isn't going to notice it, or not care enough to pick out on something that relates in no way to the safety of the car, and 2) Isn't going to be picked up by Police etc.
All this IVA scaremongering over TMF is scaring people to touch their cars, yes by the rules the car will need an IVA test, but it will also need one if you cut a hole in the bulkhead for a webber box, or change your front end to fibreglass. Things that have been going on for years, there is such as small chance of them taking 50% of Minis (and other classics) off the road. It will cause way too much aggro for the DVLA/VOSA.
All this IVA scaremongering over TMF is scaring people to touch their cars, yes by the rules the car will need an IVA test, but it will also need one if you cut a hole in the bulkhead for a webber box, or change your front end to fibreglass. Things that have been going on for years, there is such as small chance of them taking 50% of Minis (and other classics) off the road. It will cause way too much aggro for the DVLA/VOSA.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:54 PM
but people need to know the risks involved in modifying their car
what we don't want to see is someone posting that their mini has lost it's V5 and the only way it can go back on the road is an IVA test and them saying i did the mods because TMF said it was ok
what we don't want to see is someone posting that their mini has lost it's V5 and the only way it can go back on the road is an IVA test and them saying i did the mods because TMF said it was ok
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:58 PM
Point taken.
I just think the more it comes up on forums the more the 'officials' in charge of the IVA etc are going to try and put it into force and clamp down on all these modifications that have in no way reduced the safety of the car on the road.
People need to know about it and the official rules, but I do hope there could be some common sense in there somewhere and they will hopefully on clamp down on extreme cases. Tubbing arches really isn't going to affect the safety of the car is it.
I just think the more it comes up on forums the more the 'officials' in charge of the IVA etc are going to try and put it into force and clamp down on all these modifications that have in no way reduced the safety of the car on the road.
People need to know about it and the official rules, but I do hope there could be some common sense in there somewhere and they will hopefully on clamp down on extreme cases. Tubbing arches really isn't going to affect the safety of the car is it.
Edited by mini-man-dan, 22 February 2010 - 04:59 PM.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:04 PM
i think the opposite people need to know what the rules are and modify their cars with in these rules
or be happy to modify their car outside the rules knowing what the risks are
being pulled over for a road side cheek and your only defence is i didn't know there were rules isn't going to stop you losing your V5
or be happy to modify their car outside the rules knowing what the risks are
being pulled over for a road side cheek and your only defence is i didn't know there were rules isn't going to stop you losing your V5
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:09 PM
One of my cars has had a flip front fitted for several years before the IVA was ever thought up... does that mean I now need an IVA? or can I just say well it was like this before you invented the IVA?
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:42 PM
if you can prove your mods were carried out longer that 27 years ago when the rules were made you should be ok
remember before the IVA was SVA
remember before the IVA was SVA
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