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#1 atom

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 07:58 PM

So there's still work to do (interior, mainly), but now that it's running I thought I'd post a brief summary of the two and a half year development of my Domino HT total rebuild. If I don't do it now, I probably never will.

It was originally intended to be a quick refurb - a fibreglass bodied car to replace my 1971 1275 GT (which you will probably find in the 'For Sale' section sometime soon). I looked around for minuses (minae? How do you pluralise minus anyway!?), and FRA shells, but had no luck.

And then this Domino HT appeared on ebay: for a grand less than a new shell, I could get a full car, engine and all! Of course, it was too far to go and check out before the end of auction, but this wasn't a mini: I'd find no rust on the body. How much work could a fibreglass car need? :(

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Photos from the auction


Not exactly my cup of tea, I thought. Bodykit style sideskirts, big arches, and a pig-ugly rear end. But still... fibreglass...

Yes, you've guessed it. I took a chance, bid on, and ended up buying it. Hooray for me! And a few days later, it arrived.

Up close, however, it quickly became clear that there was a lot more work to do than I had first expected. Parts of the body were chipped, paint was cracked and, in several spots, coming away from the body, the sunroof was a wobbly mess of silicone and that never-setting windscreen sealant stuff and the doors (a combination of metal inner and fibreglass outer) threatened to fall apart whenever pulled open.
'Luckily', you could only open one of them.

On the inside, the headlining was stupendously baggy, and the dashboard totally non-existent. I don't even think the speedo cable was connected.
Underneath, the exhaust was rotten, the rear subframe was worryingly buckled and the engine sounded less than healthy.
And to complete the deal, it wasn't even correctly registered as a Domino on the logbook.

Some of these points, I admittedly knew about. Some.

So the work began!

The car was completely stripped, loose paint chiselled away, and the whole body was sanded down, repaired (three cheers for King Milliput!), and readied for new paint. The sunroof was removed and the hole patched, as was the crazy-ugly Domino filler cap recessed area-thing.

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What a beautiful view


At the same time, I began communicating with the DVLA to get the logbook changed. It took a while, but they were a more helpful than I had supposed they would be, and after being allocated a new chassis number and having an inspector visit to check things over, I was allowed to keep the original 1969 registration: result!

The car then made its first of many visits to the awesome ML Motorsport, where the engine was checked out and declared thoroughly worn out: 1380 block worn beyond 73.5mm, crankshaft bearings worn through to copper. Even the valves in the head were so large as to render it virtually unusable.

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Old engine going... going... gone


So, engine removed, new engine (1293) ordered and rear subframe replaced, the Domino returned, ready for painting.

I originally attempted to spray it myself... with spray cans. This was a mistake, as I eventually discovered. Maybe it was the paint, maybe it was the conditions in the garage or maybe it was the fibreglass. Either way, the paint remained soft permanently.

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Wet-sanding the whole body. In the end, a complete waste of time


Thankfully, I discovered a spray place charging a reasonable price just down the road from me... and so off to KR Motorsport(at Meopham railway sidings) it rolled (literally)!

Stripped of my own weeks of work and properly sprayed in a retro Marina Blue (actually an old VW colour), the car returned, and I began piecing it back together. New headlining and doorcards arrived from bert998, a flocked dashboard from smudger, as well as countless other parts from other forum members, Minispares, DSN Classics and Car Builder Solutions.
From memory, the polycarb quarter lights were from digi-cars.piczo.com, replacement bonnet from Body Stylist, the 7.5 S disc setup from who_loves_the_mini, thus facilitating the 10x6 split rims from fastcarl. Thanks to all of you.

Back to ML Motorsports, and Andy dropped the new engine in, fitted the front and back windscreens (not easy - as I discovered - when the shell is several times the thickness of a standard steel) and got it tuned and running for Southern Mini Days, just a few days later. It even appeared in the SMD round up in September's Mini Magazine (although unfortunately with no mention of MLM). Bottom-right, page 47! :(

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TADA!


That's the story for now, but although I'm now driving it to work daily, I wouldn't call it finished (can a mini truly ever be?)
Next jobs are:
A MegaJolt ignition system almost ready to fit (need to sort out the trigger wheel),
Replacing the doors: the steel inner / fibreglass outer nature of the doors is simply not a good long term solution. Sure, it makes fitting the windows, locks, etc easy, but despite doing a lot of work on the doors when they were first removed, they're already cracking around the joins. I intend eventually to replace them with fully fibreglass doors and polycarbonate windows (not totally straightforward, since they'll need cutting down, and the Domino sill 'bulge' thing adding).
I'd like to get some new (preferably vinyl) seats, and generally the interior needs attention (not least the numerous leaks that spring whenever it rains - fibreglass may be good at resisting water - but when it gets in, it's also very good at holding it!).
And the wiring generally needs tidying up.

Perhaps I'll update this thread with any significant progress. But for now... thanks for reading! :lol:

#2 Down&Out

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 08:47 PM

i think i did see that in minimag, good work!!

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 09:02 PM

Can we have more finished pics please!

Especially its bottom :lol:

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:43 AM

I'll take a few more when the sun decides to come out.
The differences at the back, compared to the auction picture, are some mk2 lenses, a maniflow side exit exhaust and a fibreglass Mk1 bootlid (another smudger item). Oh, and that ugly cut-out section around the filler cap is gone.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 04:19 PM

Looks like it might take a while for some sun to appear. Here's a quick rear-end shot:

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 04:21 PM

Amazing project mate, i shoudl be coming in to fiberglass mini world soon :thumbsup:

The rear end looks a million times better, and the filler neck part of the body is a hell of alot better aswell.

Love what you have done, ill be interested to see more pics when you can get them :wub:

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 04:28 PM

Thats the shot I was after, lookes really nice with the smooth bum. Lovely mini.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:07 PM

Oooo, I remember seeing this when I was up at MLM last! If your after a trigger wheel, I have a KAD kit that will be available come October. Still in great condition.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:21 PM

Thanks for the offer Jammy, but I've already got a MED pulley sitting here waiting to be fitted. Hopefully it'll be done once the engine's run its first 500 miles.

Thanks for the comments guys - I've been watching your build CharlieBrown. It looks very nice! I wouldn't really want to rebuild a fibreglass car again - start sanding it down, and you end up itching for days!

And Tomf - I remember seeing your green car on the last Bluewater meet I went to (when my GT still had an MOT). What kind of a shell are you looking at?

Seems like the plastic cars are slowly becoming more popular! Maybe we need a sub-forum 'Plastic Fantastic' :thumbsup:

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:26 PM

LOL i agree a plastic fantastic sub section would be cool.

Im Buying Jammy minus shell off him :thumbsup: ill be collecting it some time in august, hopefully as the begining, i can wait to start working on it :wub:

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:28 PM

Right, I saw Jammy's 'For Sale' post. A minus, eh? Lucky guy.

Dominos don't seem to be regarded very highly in the fibreglass mini rankings. I guess it's the bodykit style appearance that's to blame. When I first bought it, I got a 'Domino Club' newsletter type thing. As far as I can tell, the club doesn't exist any more.

I think there is a need for a general fibreglass shell group, because although they're made by different companies, all the different shell types are really very similar, and everyone who builds them probably has similar problems.

The filler neck, in case anyone is interested, is set back on regular Dominos (HTs, at least) because of the position of the rear lights. They're higher than usual, which means inside the boot, they end up pushing against the fuel tank instead of fitting neatly into the shaped area below the neck.

To rectify this, all I did was take a hacksaw to the back of the light assembly and bodge together a bulb holder.

I originally considered lowering the lights themselves to solve it, but in the end, decided it was more work than it was worth.

Edited by atom, 05 September 2008 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:42 PM

Right, I saw Jammy's 'For Sale' post. A minus, eh? Lucky guy.

Dominos don't seem to be regarded very highly in the fibreglass mini rankings. I guess it's the bodykit style appearance that's to blame.

The filler neck, in case anyone is interested, is set back on regular Dominos (HTs, at least) because of the position of the rear lights. They're higher than usual, which means inside the boot, they end up pushing against the fuel tank instead of fitting neatly into the shaped area below the neck.

To rectify this, all I did was take a hacksaw to the back of the light assembly and bodge together a bulb holder.

I originally considered lowering the lights themselves to solve it, but in the end, decided it was more work than it was worth.


Yea i was lucky :thumbsup: iv wanted one for ages, then when we was in germany i was talking to him and he was saying he might sell it, so i said if he does i will defonately have it so contact me first, so he did before he put the post up on the forum and i agreed i would have it and since then iv been selling all my spare parts off to raise fund, thats why my 1380 is being taken out next week or the week after and then being sold lol.

I cant wait to get started on it :wub:

Yea i know what your sayin about the domino, i personally like them, but the kit kind of makes it look not so mini like... if i was to have one i would fiberglass and blend the kit in to try and make it look more mini like... But what you have done with yours looks really good and its not going to rust lol.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 06:16 PM

Why did you have to wait till the sun came out? Not like its going to rust....

Anywho, it looks a gazillion times better especially the filler neck. Im liking the colour aswell.

Tom I think that should be the name of minus project: plastic fantastic. lol

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:00 PM

Why did you have to wait till the sun came out? Not like its going to rust....


Just for the sake of quality of the photo. That one I took of the rear, the colours are all off because there was no sun!

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:22 PM

i love this! i used to think they were ugly, but you have proved they can be nice! think perhaps you should spray the bumper lip body colour to go with the rest of the 'surround'

and no, a mini is never finished, only abandoned. lol!

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